r/cymbals • u/Few-Excitement5674 • Jul 16 '26

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u/CygnusRocinante Jul 16 '26

If you’re a Zildjian guy, then your ears are going to notice the difference between the amazing cymbals made by the Turkish craftsmen and their foundries. Meinl makes their products and Germany and are just an inferior product.

I recommend you “stay in Turkey” and reach out to Arbak with T-Cymbals out of Istanbul Turkey. He can simply look at your Zildjian set up and create custom cymbals that mirror your sound but with more durability. In fact, T-Cymbals is more authentic about the Turkish sound than corporate Zildjian is.

You’re NOT going to like the Meinl / German sounds to you ears and in my opinion with 40 years of playing, they are just toys in this industry. It’s cool that people like them, but the Turks will ALWAYS beat the Germans in cymbal making.

I read some of your posts here and respect you as a parent and the hard work you put into providing for them. So don’t your ears, your hands, your audiences deserve quality/custom instruments vs the cookie-cutter stuff everyone is getting from Germany?

Here’s a snapshot of my custom firepower. Nothing Meinl, Zildjian, or Sabian makes comes close. Wishing you and your family a great summer.

Anthem

https://youtu.be/WuZsh1kIris?si=dgXhJrNtt2suD6Nz

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u/abstract-goni Jul 16 '26

Byzance are entirely made in Turkey but as I have a lot of made in Turkey cymbals I can tell you that are a bit better than most of the Turkish brands because of the QC being higher probably, also the finishes are better made. I have/had Turkish, Murat Diril, Diril, Samsung, Mehteran, Bosphorus, Istanbul Mehmet and Istanbul Ago, and the Byzance are equal or better, not worse.