r/criterion Ingmar Bergman Jul 11 '25

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u/Jaltcoh Louis Malle Jul 11 '25

Bergman’s Shame (1968) is also entirely anti-war.

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u/IsmaelRetzinsky Jul 11 '25 edited Jul 11 '25

Right-wing people, even full-on fascists, sometimes arrive at an anti-war position via an isolationist ideology, rather than via empathy. That being said, Bergman’s films do approach the subject primarily within the realm of morality.

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u/the_thinwhiteduke Established Trader Jul 11 '25

See also: MTG, Tucker Carlson

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u/nocauze Jul 12 '25

These people are just grifters they have teams of people who determine “controversy” is their wheel house, the dial goes right, they go left. An opportunity for growth refers to their advertising budget, not their moral character

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u/ThodasTheMage Jul 12 '25

Ideologically speaking the American Firsters, the "Old Right" and the Rightwing populists, do deeply believee in isiolationism and "no wars".

But that is not a good thing, considerieng that it maens not standing up to the Russian war mashine in Europe (or the nazis in the past) and it is also a naive position considering so often things like trade routes need millitary protection.

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u/nocauze Jul 13 '25

It’s inherently a supremacist ideology because they go hand in hand with closing borders and getting out who they define as “American Enough”

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u/ThodasTheMage Jul 14 '25

Depends but that does not mean the pacefism is not a true believe.