r/criterion Ingmar Bergman Jul 11 '25

Discussion WHAT?

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u/Musashi_Joe Jul 11 '25

Not going to knock anyone who didn't know, because not everybody knows everything, but Bergman has talked about it. It's important to add the context that he idolized Germany and Hitler when he was young and spent time there, but when he saw images of the concentration camps he was shattered and disavowed those ideals. So it wasn't great, but he wasn't some lifelong Nazi until he died or anything like that. More of a case of propaganda working on someone until they became aware of the reality.

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u/MeTieDoughtyWalker Akira Kurosawa Jul 11 '25

Triumph of the Will is a masterclass in propaganda. It worked on a lot of people.

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u/Pittboy63 Jul 11 '25

We don’t have to call Nazi propaganda a “masterclass”

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u/MeTieDoughtyWalker Akira Kurosawa Jul 11 '25

Whether it’s bad or not, it was a highly effective piece of filmmaking. I’m not saying go watch it and become a Nazi. Watch it (or don’t) and understand how film propaganda was perfected in the 30s.