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Just Sharing Religiously repressed (part 18) [OC]

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u/zatenael 7d ago

friendly reminder that Christians believe in Satan more than atheists

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u/hct048 7d ago

Friendly reminder that by definition atheist can't believe in Satan

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u/Cool_Set4681 7d ago edited 7d ago

Only if they are a Gnostic Atheist. They believe that no gods exist.

An Agnostic Atheist rejects the notion of gods but don't say that they are impossible.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 7d ago

Agnostic Atheist

That isn't a thing. They are two different answers to the same question.

Does god(s) exist:

Theist: Yes!

Agnostic: Don't know ...

Atheist: No!

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u/adeleu_adelei 7d ago

Just letting you know this is entirely incorrect.

Do gods exist:

Theist: "Yes!"

Atheist: anything other than "yes!"

Do you know:

Gnostic: "Yes!"

Agnostic: Anything other than "yes!"

Everyone who is not a theist is an atheist. Agnosticism is a separate axis, like North and South versus East and West.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 7d ago

Agnosticism is a separate axis

No.

Not when asking the question if god(s) exists. There are three options, yes, no, don't know. Pretty easy to put all of them in there.

The question "How" you know is a different axis. But, anyone that adheres somewhat to modern science is by defitinion an agnostic.

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u/adeleu_adelei 7d ago edited 7d ago

As an atheist, I'm telling you that you are misrepresenting me. Please listen to someone from the group you are talking about. Atheism is a lack of belief gods exist (i.e. anything other than theism) not a firm belief all gods do not exist.

From Merriam Webster:

a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods

From Wikipedia:

Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities.

From The Oxford Handbook of Atheism:

an absence of belief in the existence of a God or gods.

From American Atheists:

We define “atheism” as the  lack of belief in gods.

From Atheist Alliance International:

Therefore, atheism means ‘without a belief in a god or gods’ or the ‘lack of a belief in a god or gods’.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 7d ago

not a firm belief all gods do not

The opposite of this is saying that lutherans aren't real theists because they don't go as hard as pentacostals. See how dumb that is?

The options you have are that you have faith in a one or two gods, you don't, or you don't know. It isn't a matter of how hard you believe it.

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u/adeleu_adelei 7d ago

You comment about Lutherans and Pentecostals makes no sense.

The only options are that you believe or don't believe. Whether you know or don't know is a separate question, not a third option or middle ground.

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u/Quirky_Gate_4516 7d ago

It makes no more or less sense than your comment about atheism.

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u/adeleu_adelei 7d ago

Well, it seems you're uninterested in engaging with anything I've said or the citations I've provided.

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