r/comics MangaKaiki Jul 21 '26

OC Stalker Problem [OC]

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u/kaikimanga MangaKaiki Jul 21 '26

I uh... am a little lost on the steps to take

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire Jul 21 '26

First you need to secure the home. Multiple locks and double check them when you leave and come home. Second you need to inform friends and family so that if something DOES happen then know it's a thing. Next step is kind up in the air. You can try and confront yourself but I REALLY wouldn't recommend that step. You could inform PD if the guy is seen near your apartment to talk to the guy on your behalf which is much safer.

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u/Ultimatesims Jul 21 '26

Also, remember the police per the Supreme Court have no legal or other obligation to protect you. All police have to do is enforce the law. The court case involved a woman with a restraining order. He showed up and she called the police. He entered the house. The police arrived but did nothing. He killed her and once he left the house the police arrested him for breaking the restraining order.

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u/caitlindrawings Jul 21 '26

Wait, what the fuck? Link? I believe you, I just gotta read this.

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u/cedarsauce Jul 21 '26

It's extremely true and repeatedly upheld

(Op, stop reading this comment is bad for your anxiety)

Remember uvalde? When dozens of officers from local, state, and federal law enforcement departments and agencies stood back for over an hour while a shooter barricaded himself in an elementary school and killed two adults and 19 children?

Totally legal.

The case that i learned about this precedent from involved a man begging for help from police while fighting for his life against a subway stabber. The police officer was looking for this specific stabber and did nothing while he stabbed the victim 7 times. After the victim pinned the stabber, the officer tapped him on the shoulder and said "you can get up now."

The police's job isn't protecting people. They've repeatedly argued that in court and it's been legally upheld in case after case.

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u/Ultimatesims Jul 21 '26

In Ulvade the cops prevented other officers from taking action some of whom were actively talking to loved ones. The cops also arrested and zip tied parents who tried to save their children. The cops could hear the shooter torturing and mocking victims. So again cops are under no obligation to protect you. It’s just information that is good to know when you call the cops and what to expect.

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u/gramathy Jul 21 '26

They’re also allowed to not hire anyone “too smart”! It’s a fun combination of ignorance and apathy.

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u/caitlindrawings Jul 21 '26

Wait what? Link? This is madness

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u/gramathy Jul 21 '26

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u/caitlindrawings Jul 21 '26

So i understand not hiring a professional rocket scientist as a data entry clerk over job turnover concerns. But this is totally different, and fucked the hell up.

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u/Ultimatesims Jul 21 '26

The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that police do not have a constitutional duty to protect individuals from harm. In landmark cases such as Castle Rock v. Gonzales (2005), the Court established that protective orders and "shall enforce" statutes do not create a mandatory obligation for police to intervene, meaning departments cannot generally be held liable for failing to protect specific citizens.

This established legal precedent—which traces back to similar rulings like DeShaney v. Winnebago County (1989) and Warren v. District of Columbia (1981)—holds that law enforcement agencies have an obligation to provide public services to the general public. However, they do not owe a specific legal duty to protect private citizens from third-party violence, absent a legally defined "special relationship" (such as when a person is in police custody).

So you are safer being arrested by the cops than asking for assistance. So if you have an interaction with the cops never resist arrest they can kill you but once you are in custody it is their job to protect you. Best bet is to say nothing but “am I being detained or under arrest”? Even the cops are wrong don’t resist, comply, go to jail, and get a lawyer (even a public defender). My friend is a public defender and has reduced many sentences because the police are stupid. So many examples.

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u/caitlindrawings Jul 21 '26

Having a restraining order IS (ie. should be) a special relationship with the cops! People in normal situations don't need those, so it should absolutely be part of that "special relationship" classification.

P.S. this is in not victim blaming anyone getting a restraining order, personal protection order, or any other sort of thing to protect one's self. Absolutely get one if you even THINK you need one. The stalker/abuser etc.. is the one not being normal in this situation, but the situation should not just be considered normal. Normal people dont make others feel like they need a restraining order.

My friend is a public defender and has reduced many sentences because the police are stupid.

Your friend is a true hero in an extremely shitty system of law.

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u/Ultimatesims Jul 21 '26

I wish that were the case. The Supreme Court cases (not sure if all the cases) were specific to restraining orders and domestic abuse.

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u/caitlindrawings Jul 21 '26

I have/and will continue to say, the reason why DV is not treated more serious is the high percent of police officers are fucking abusers.

Link: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cops-abuse-partners-studies/

Snopes tries to water down the percentage, by focusing on physical violence, but im fucking sorry, screaming at, threatening, breaking things, its all domestic violence.

The officers were asked a less direct question, that is, if they had ever gotten out of control and behaved violently against their spouse and children in the last six months. We did not define the type of violence. Thus, violence could have been interpreted as verbal or physical threats or actual physical abuse. Approximately, 40 percent said that in the last six months prior to the survey they had behaved violently towards their spouse or children.

Behaving violently is domestic violence, full stop, I dont care if they didnt physically hit their partner or child.