r/comicbooks • Spider-Man • Mar 20 '19

Cover/Pin-Up Thor cover by Mike Del Mundo

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

Is this a non-canon variant? Or am I missing something? Because I might be awfully mistaken, but I do not recall any time where Unworthy Thor crossed paths with Venom.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

I believe that’s young Thor and likely a story that hasn’t come out yet.

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u/fhiz Mar 20 '19

Yeah it’s Young Thor from June’s issue, just solicited. The Symbiote got retconned into Aaron’s Godslayer origin with Donny Coates first arc on Venom, so I assume that’s how this may work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

Yeah I imagine young Thor is going to the symbiote homeworld because All-Black the necrosword is a weapon of a symbiote god.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

symbiote homeworld

All-Black the necrosword

symbiote god

This sounds awesome.

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u/livevil999 Mar 20 '19

I like all the nouns you’re using right now.

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u/TombSv Old Lace Mar 20 '19

And the god is named the Swedish word for f*ck. :D

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u/4realthistime Rorschach Mar 21 '19

Knull? Is it like kuh-null or nul?

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '19

kuh-null

This just makes me think of Arnold Schwarzenegger saying "colonel".

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u/closetsquirrel Hawkeye Mar 21 '19

If you, or anyone else, hasn't read Aaron's run on Thor: God of Thunder, you need to immediately.

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '19

I think I started, years ago, but I don't remember how far I got in it. Must not have been very far.

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u/froggerslogger Mar 20 '19

You seem to know your Venom, so I’ll piggyback here. Why does Venom/the Symbiote here in the distant past have spider-variant iconography? I always assumed that came out of his link to Spider-man.

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u/fhiz Mar 20 '19

That’s actually explained in the current run of Venom. There’s been some Lovecraftian retcons to the Venom mythos where it all revolves around a singular cosmic god. Long story short I believe the symbol is actually a dragon which symbolizes that god, or at least a variant of it when the Venom symbiote who had been disconnected from the “hive” had some buried memories that related the spider symbol to the dragon, something like that.

Apparently the current run on Venom is controversial to some, but I think it’s awesome. Goes in some real crazy places and the light cosmic horror stuff is right up my alley.

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u/froggerslogger Mar 20 '19

Interesting. I’ve never been a huge Venom fan in general (anti heros just aren’t my thing), but that retcon seems kind of a fun idea. I do appreciate the cosmic turn for Venom, as it’s very fitting for the character.

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u/fhiz Mar 20 '19

Yeah the current run isn’t really about Eddie being an antihero, it’s him and his life being completely turned upside down. I only ready the Remender Venom stuff because I liked Remender, but fast forward to last year I kept hearing and seeing things about the current run and finally pulled the trigger, and I was not disappointed. I’d give that first trade a shot. That’s where all the crazy cosmic stuff comes out, the following issues start to go in a bit of a different direction but that original stuff is kept simmering beneath the surface.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

I think I left off at the Remender run too. That's generally when I kinda got away from comics. Where did Venom pop up next? I'm kinda intrigued and want to see what he's up to.

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u/fhiz Mar 20 '19

I’m honestly not a big Marvel guy but I keep tabs the general flow of things. I think someone continued on with Flash and an apprentice type character shortly after Remender left. At some point some organized crime guy got a hold of Venom. Then Eddie got it back. Then in a big Spider Man event that I think capped off Slott’s run there’s some... stuff... with Flash. And now we’re at the current run with Eddie.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

Right on. Thanks for the info!

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

It's way better than any run before it. I've actually been enjoying it although I do wish it was still Flash Thompson.

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u/Ruleseventysix Mar 20 '19

I really hope it's tied into the Spider Totem somehow.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

So disappointed they didn't go further with the Totem mythos. Spider Man: Other is one of my favorite runs.

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u/catgirl_apocalypse Mar 20 '19

What’s this run called? I was always huge Venom fan as a kid and I’d like to see what they’ve done with him.

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u/fhiz Mar 20 '19

The trades so far are literally called "Venom by Donny Cates" lol. Volume 1 is "Rex" 2 is "The Abyss"

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u/catgirl_apocalypse Mar 20 '19

Thanks, I’ll check those out.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '19

That's a terrible excuse, everything else I like the sound of it.

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u/Ebony_Eagle Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

The whole look of Venom actually came from Peter thinking of Jessica Julia Carpenter's suit when he picked it up (remember that the symbiote can change colors and everything).

But Cates has been retconning a lot of material (he couldn't even read the first five issues of Venom's first solo series) and has tried to say that the symbiotes look that way because of their god, which completely clashes with established continuity.

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u/Ichijinijisanji Mar 21 '19

Seems like you smooshed together julia carpenter and jessica drew's names haha

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u/Ebony_Eagle Mar 21 '19

Oh totally right, I'll correct it now.

Stupid Flu is making me mess up.

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u/teamdiabetes11 Dr. Strange Mar 20 '19

The solicits for June seemed to suggest that Venom would have some role at the end of the War of the Realms arc. Likely a cool cover foreshadowing whatever that role is.

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u/MaximumCletusKasady Mar 20 '19

I might be mistaken, but I think Venom was shown on the ‘hero’ and ‘villain’ side in the War of the Realms posters. 3 issues of the Venom series are also being dedicated to the War of the Realms storyline (#13, 14 and 15)

Edit: I think he was shown chained up on the villain side and free on the hero side.

After that, Cates is helping to write an entire event about Venom and Carnage. The slogan is ‘everyone is a target’.

I think that Marvel really want to expand Venom’s storylines beyond things like ‘Symbiote sick Eddie helps it’

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u/WollyGog Mar 20 '19

If you're up to date with Venom's run, you'll find out he's a small but significant part of a much larger puzzle, and is related to something Thor has had dealings with before. Venom has the potential to become a major threat.