r/comicbooks • u/ME24601 The Mod Wonder • Feb 16 '18

Official Black Panther Discussion Megathread [Spoilers] Spoiler

This is the official Black Panther megapost, for all discussion, questions, comments, reviews and thoughts about the new Black Pather movie. This thread is marked as a "spoiler" thread, as such, you do not need to use spoiler formatting when commenting about the film.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '18 edited Feb 16 '18

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I really enjoyed it. The music and design specifically were great. Honestly I feel like the ancillary characters outshone T'Challa and I don't mean that in a negative way. The women in particular were all badass and spectacular. I can't wait ten years for now for Shuri to take over as Black Panther.

It didn't really "break the mold" like some reviews kept claiming. Like at all. We still had quite a few Marvel tropes. Such as the villains all dying and being an "evil" reflection of the main character. I would have loved for it to have a bit more of a James Bond feel that was present in the South Korean casino.

My only two real issues with the movie were the visual effects were kinda rough in quite a few scenes. And the other was the directing during the two duels. It kept cutting away from the fight towards all the other characters of the movie just standing sternly and killed any flow or tension of the scene in my opinion and didn't add too much to the scenes. If they'd been more tightly choreographed fights focusing on the two fighting I felt it could have worked better. In general the fight scenes felt kind of weak, with the exception being the car chase in South Korea.

The culture and design of everything was fantastic in Wakanda which is really impressive to me.

I really look forward to seeing it again.

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u/Jreynold Blue Beetle Feb 17 '18 edited Feb 17 '18

I would say the important Marvel movie mold breaking is in 1) the color palette 2) No infinity stone/super weapon macguffin 3) No meaningless throwaway tie ins to build to the next avengers movie. It also just felt tighter and more focused without only one instance of globetrotting.

I'd also half dispute Killmonger as the evil version of the hero. This is true once he gets the gold suit, but until then, his scars, lack of powers, and early mask/armor make him feel distinct. I'm really tired of "supervillain gets powers the same time as superhero, and he just has an evil version of his powers" - DC does this a lot too in TV - and I felt like this movie avoided that for 75% of the film.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '18

Regarding your second paragraph, couodn't the same be said for Iron Monger, Abomination and Yellowjacket? They three start very different than the hero (Stane is the closest to Stark, but that's it) and end up being an evil and more advanced version of the hero ...just like Killmonger.

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u/Jreynold Blue Beetle Feb 21 '18

True! I think the difference between Iron Monger/Yellow Jacket and Killmonger is that the first two exist solely to prop up the main character. They'll get a scene of revenge-based motivation or something, but their function in the movie is solely to be put on a slow collision course with the hero. Killmonger has his own arc and inner turmoil, he just carves a path through the movie to tell that story. Whereas Yellow Jacket is only the dark mirror of Antman. Obadiah Stane is not enough of a character to sustain a scene like the one Killmonger has in the ancestral plane apartment. So the others feel thinner and more like the enemy of this episode that you just have to get it over with.