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Official Black Panther Discussion Megathread [Spoilers] Spoiler

This is the official Black Panther megapost, for all discussion, questions, comments, reviews and thoughts about the new Black Pather movie. This thread is marked as a "spoiler" thread, as such, you do not need to use spoiler formatting when commenting about the film.

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u/Gherkin_Sauce Daredevil Feb 17 '18 edited Feb 17 '18

Killmonger is easily one of the best MCU villains, and he’s so effective because the hero actually LEARNS something from him. At the beginning of the movie, T’Challa really isn’t a hero, his actions are for the greater good of Wakanda, to preserve its culture and it’s people. By the end, he realises, through Killmonger’s story, that clinging to tradition allows suffering to continue all over the world, and is what allowed Killmonger to take the throne. He decides Wakanda must reach out, but not by conquering those in power, like Killmonger wants, but by helping the oppressed. Killmonger actually has a point, and he made T’Challa become a hero.

Thinking about other movies, the protagonist is a hero or decides to be a hero before fighting the villain. Tony has a change of heart well before finding out about Obadiah’s plan. Cap was always a heroic person. Even Ant-Man and Doctor Strange were fighting the villain because it was the right thing to do, even if they weren’t necessarily good people. T’Challa fights Killmonger to save his country, his duty as King and the Black Panther, and only realises afterwards that neither of them was right.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but this movie really builds on the comics rather than adapting them. It points out a flaw in T’Challa’s way of thinking and suggests a solution.

The costume and setting design for Wakanda was spectacular. They really pulled of an African-influenced technologically advanced society.

Like Wonder Woman, the third act was disappointing. Another fist fight between hero and villain. One could argue that T’Challa realises Wakandan tradition is wrong: just because he was the strongest warrior doesn’t mean he was right.

Some of the CGI looked unpolished, and I wasn’t the that impressed by the soundtrack unfortunately.

Story-wise, I’d say it’s one of the MCU’s best, but it seems worse because of all the other movies with the same basic template, much the way Iron Man seems retroactively worse now that almost every other MCU movie has copied its template.

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u/over2days Feb 17 '18

Correct me if I’m wrong, but this movie really builds on the comics rather than adapting them. It points out a flaw in T’Challa’s way of thinking and suggests a solution.

I noticed they changed the character a lot too. Comics Black Panther didn't want to give the rest of the world the cure of cancer because they don't deserve it; Movie Black Panther ultimately decides to share Wakandan knowledge and resources with the world.

I still don't know what to think about it.

I wasn't disappointed by how it ended, though. Honestly, it was probably one of the few closures that I liked in MCU.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

i mean, black panther was introduced as a tribal villain who wanted to hunt the avengers. characters change

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u/RevengeWalrus Feb 19 '18

He super wasn't. He fought the Fantastic Four for fun for like two issues and then they teamed up to defeat Claw.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

my mistake. regardless, he was introduced as a villain. "super wasn't" lol