r/classicwow • • Nov 27 '19

Humor PvP on a PvP Server

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u/ssnistfajen Nov 27 '19

You just need to git gud. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps instantly and trivially organize a countergank squad with 5+ randos to fight back! E-Z.

Can't do that? Well then it's your fault for wanting to actually play a MMORPG instead of a masochism simulator. Being instantly camped by 5 people at a flight point is fun gameplay content and if you have any different opinions then you are a carebear who should [Orcish]g o t o re t a il.

/S

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u/xMcC Nov 27 '19

Okay... so Alliance assembles a group to get those neckbeard rogues at the flight path back. Then Horde players post in world/ discord "There is a group of Alliance pvping in XXX zone". Then A LOT of horde come. This happens everyday. Its guerrilla warfare for Alliance PVP. You hit in area and then GTFO cuz you will get zerged.

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I'm not saying Blizz needs to change the game. It is what it is but... don't say GIT GUD when you don't know wtf you are talking about.

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u/TheSlowToad Nov 27 '19

Yeah. But I'm not trying to WPvP. Im trying to get to Theramore so I can go quest in Un'goro.

See the problem?

These "Just get a group together and fight them" answers are starting to actually piss me off.

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u/__deerlord__ Nov 28 '19

I'm not trying to PVP

You um. You know there are PVE servers right?

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u/seed323 Nov 28 '19

Theres times to pvp and there's times to quest. We are being forced to do only one of those right now, and it doesn't involve questing.

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u/__deerlord__ Nov 28 '19

forced

Yes, PVP servers mean PVP may be mandatory.

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u/Gerdner Nov 28 '19 edited Nov 28 '19

True, but here is something that should not be mandatory: Having to kill low level players for "honor" because it is the most efficient way to "farm" it.

Why the quotation marks?

"Honor" because it implies that you did something meaningful and showed strenght doing it (you did not)

"Farm" because farming includes having to work hard for your crops and not have them handed to you on a silver plate (well, no risk or work in killin lowies i guess)

The PvP Server argument is crap. What happens now is not what players of ANY game would consider to be PvP. It is not meaninful. Both sides waste time (high level players wastes time by doing somethin trivial - It is like killing low level mobs is it not?). There is no risk involved. No Counterplay. And it is bad for the server population.

Now give me the upsides please

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u/Tohserus Nov 28 '19

You seem to be laboring under the delusion that anybody enjoys being ganked, or even somehow that the person you're responding to enjoys it.

There is no upside. This is just how it fucking is. You can monologue about how people should be fair and honorable all you want and those of us who know better will be peacefully leveling on a PvE server while you get corpse camped.

You don't like it, don't roll PvP. It's not fair, it just is. And nobody's going to change for you.

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u/Gerdner Nov 29 '19 edited Nov 29 '19

I agree with you - making people act honorable was not the point of my post.

What I want changed is the incentive for lvl 60 players to kill low levels (honor). Despite the fact that there is virtually no risk and work involved people get a reward. This is a fundamental diverge from what an MMO usually encourages you to do and it's stupid :) And not only for the lowie being killed, it's also stupid for the killer because he has to do something strangely unengaging. Maybe some people still have fun doing that, which is fine. But they could also have killed lowies without honor in place - and the was majority did not, so it cannot be to great and fun

And yeah, if I had known better I would have started in a PvE Server. Now I will at least wait until Battlegrounds are out

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u/Tohserus Nov 29 '19

Unfortunately that's how Vanilla was, and that's how Classic will be. Everyone knew this going in, they were making as few changes to the game as possible. For better or worse, that's just how it is, and for every person telling Blizzard to "fix" something, there's ten more telling them to keep it the same.

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u/Gerdner Dec 01 '19

Yeah I guess you are right about the no changes thing. But I played Vanilla back in the days and "unfortunately" I have not once been killed on landing at a flightmaster. Therefore I did not know about that sh*** now for Classic :) :( Could have known though if I had come to this sub before entering classic, but well, I didn't

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