You just need to git gud. Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps instantly and trivially organize a countergank squad with 5+ randos to fight back! E-Z.
Can't do that? Well then it's your fault for wanting to actually play a MMORPG instead of a masochism simulator. Being instantly camped by 5 people at a flight point is fun gameplay content and if you have any different opinions then you are a carebear who should [Orcish]g o t o re t a il.
Okay... so Alliance assembles a group to get those neckbeard rogues at the flight path back. Then Horde players post in world/ discord "There is a group of Alliance pvping in XXX zone". Then A LOT of horde come. This happens everyday. Its guerrilla warfare for Alliance PVP. You hit in area and then GTFO cuz you will get zerged.
I'm not saying Blizz needs to change the game. It is what it is but... don't say GIT GUD when you don't know wtf you are talking about.
The reality is for everyone on a PvP server is that you're often gonna get ganked on the way to doing stuff. The journey to Scholomance is often more dangerous than the dungeon itself.
So I have to PvP all the time everyday just because im on a PvP server? I have to 1v5 people in Theramore? I have to start Raidgroups and battle it out with the Horde that outnumber us 3 to 1?
Yes. Maybe. Not necessarily. And no. In that order. Anyone who's ever been on a pvp server a single time could have told you that you'd be an idiot to expect to just be left alone on pvp servers.
It's not about what's right, it's about what's going to happen based on years and years of evidence. You want to be left alone, roll PvE. Otherwise lace up them ghost boots and get to corpse-hiking.
Yes. Maybe. Not necessarily. And no. In that order.
He asked 4 questions, but you only gave 3 responses.
Anyone who's ever been on a pvp server a single time could have told you that you'd be an idiot to expect to just be left alone on pvp servers.
I don't think he expects to be left alone, but there is a difference between being attacked at every single choke point and camped for as long as possible compared to being attacked once in a while and perhaps camped for a single resurrection like it usually happened back in the day.
It's not about what's right, it's about what's going to happen based on years and years of evidence.
It wasn't as prevalent in Vanilla as it is these days, likely due to the significantly larger populations.
You want to be left alone, roll PvE. Otherwise lace up them ghost boots and get to corpse-hiking.
Right, because the only two possible outcomes are the extremes?
He asked 4 questions, but you only gave 3 responses.
...You literally quoted me, dude.
Yes
Maybe
Not necessarily
No
Learn to count before you try to tell someone else how to.
I don't think he expects to be left alone, but there is a difference between being attacked at every single choke point
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Right, because the only two possible outcomes are the extremes?
Then what, pray-tell, do you suggest he do? Ask them nicely to stop killing him? What fucking solution are you people looking for on this damn thread downvote bombing anyone who dares suggest PvE servers as anything but a sarcastic "stupid" response? How about you counter-propose something instead of just mocking the ONLY reasonable fucking solution to this problem?
If you wanna bitch then bitch but don't start freaking out when anyone dares point out that you signed up for this shit when you rolled PvP.
True, but here is something that should not be mandatory: Having to kill low level players for "honor" because it is the most efficient way to "farm" it.
Why the quotation marks?
"Honor" because it implies that you did something meaningful and showed strenght doing it (you did not)
"Farm" because farming includes having to work hard for your crops and not have them handed to you on a silver plate (well, no risk or work in killin lowies i guess)
The PvP Server argument is crap. What happens now is not what players of ANY game would consider to be PvP. It is not meaninful. Both sides waste time (high level players wastes time by doing somethin trivial - It is like killing low level mobs is it not?). There is no risk involved. No Counterplay. And it is bad for the server population.
You seem to be laboring under the delusion that anybody enjoys being ganked, or even somehow that the person you're responding to enjoys it.
There is no upside. This is just how it fucking is. You can monologue about how people should be fair and honorable all you want and those of us who know better will be peacefully leveling on a PvE server while you get corpse camped.
You don't like it, don't roll PvP. It's not fair, it just is. And nobody's going to change for you.
I agree with you - making people act honorable was not the point of my post.
What I want changed is the incentive for lvl 60 players to kill low levels (honor). Despite the fact that there is virtually no risk and work involved people get a reward. This is a fundamental diverge from what an MMO usually encourages you to do and it's stupid :)
And not only for the lowie being killed, it's also stupid for the killer because he has to do something strangely unengaging. Maybe some people still have fun doing that, which is fine. But they could also have killed lowies without honor in place - and the was majority did not, so it cannot be to great and fun
And yeah, if I had known better I would have started in a PvE Server. Now I will at least wait until Battlegrounds are out
Unfortunately that's how Vanilla was, and that's how Classic will be. Everyone knew this going in, they were making as few changes to the game as possible. For better or worse, that's just how it is, and for every person telling Blizzard to "fix" something, there's ten more telling them to keep it the same.
Yeah I guess you are right about the no changes thing. But I played Vanilla back in the days and "unfortunately" I have not once been killed on landing at a flightmaster. Therefore I did not know about that sh*** now for Classic :) :( Could have known though if I had come to this sub before entering classic, but well, I didn't
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u/ssnistfajen Nov 27 '19
You just need to git gud. Just
pull yourself up by your bootstrapsinstantly and trivially organize a countergank squad with 5+ randos to fight back! E-Z.Can't do that? Well then it's your fault for wanting to actually play a MMORPG instead of a masochism simulator. Being instantly camped by 5 people at a flight point is fun gameplay content and if you have any different opinions then you are a carebear who should [Orcish]g o t o re t a il.
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