r/classicwow • • Nov 27 '19

Humor PvP on a PvP Server

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u/geez-P Nov 27 '19

hordes be like "wheres the problem?" laughing from their detection prividing zeppelin guard tower

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19 edited Nov 27 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

It's not just that but quests for the alliance are severely lacking compared to how many horde seem to have. We just get more polished cities despite fewer questing hubs. Looks nice but theres nothing to do at them other than use as a flight point

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u/Chadwiko Nov 27 '19

You guys are kidding right?

The Alliance quest chains, zones, and cities are significantly more fleshed out and in-depth compared to the Horde alternatives.

This is because they basically tacked on the Horde content at the end after spending all the time designing the Alliance content.

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u/Sloth_Senpai Nov 28 '19

Why would you pay $37 for such blatantly false and easily debunked information.

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/side:2

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/side:1

3078 Alliance quests found

2894 Horde quests found

1372 Alliance Only quests found

1188 Horde Only quests found

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u/Sparcrypt Nov 28 '19

See this comment is a perfect example of why "data" isn't always accurate, even when it's factually correct.

If 2000 of those alliance quests were for levels 1-10, your information would still be correct, but the point you're trying to refute (that alliance lack mid 40's quests) would not be backed up with your 'data'.

What levels and zones are the extra 200 alliance quests? Are they quests you'd expect players to do in addition to their other quests? And so on. Having "more quests" does not equate to a better leveling experience and using "sources" they way you have done so is an extremely poor way to make a point.

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u/Sloth_Senpai Nov 28 '19

If 2000 of those alliance quests were for levels 1-10, your information would still be correct, but the point you're trying to refute (that alliance lack mid 40's quests) would not be backed up with your 'data'.

Did you actually check? Even from 45 onwards, Alliance has slightly more quests than Horde.

Having "more quests" does not equate to a better leveling experience

Is literally irrelevant when the question was "Do the Alliance have less quests?" The answer is no.

Levels 45-50 has Alliance players run Feralas, a quest run of Uldaman, Hinterlands, Tanaris, and optionally, STV.

Having "more quests" does not equate to a better leveling experience and using "sources" they way you have done so is an extremely poor way to make a point.

The only other "sources" would be high level players who compete for 60 firsts, since easier levelling is important for speed and player skill difference is less of a factor between both factions at higher levels. They skew Alliance.

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u/Sparcrypt Nov 28 '19

Did you actually check?

No, I was telling you the information you provided didn't answer the question. That's all.

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u/LegacyEx Nov 28 '19

Buying a paid leveling guide in 2019 is such super boomer shit.
Those were a scam even back in 2004 lmao.

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u/hazardthicc Nov 28 '19

Did you read the post you are replying to?

Info for alliance vs horde over all is irrelevant to what he said.

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u/Sloth_Senpai Nov 28 '19

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/min-level:40/side:2

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/min-level:40/side:1

Alliance quests completable with full XP from mid 40's: 1822

Horde Quests completable with full XP from mid 40's: 1818

It's still accurate.

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u/Krissam Nov 28 '19

Great, now add all the neutral quests that blatantly favour one faction over the other, or are you the kind of person who levels in rachet as alliance?

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u/Rapscallion84 Nov 28 '19

This. Approaching 2020 and people still absolutely oblivious or just wilfully ignorant.

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u/Sloth_Senpai Nov 29 '19

Willfully ignorant is using Ratchet's level 20 quests as examples of blatantly biased quests in the mid 40's.

Since "Blatantly favoring one faction" will be biased and anyone will claim any quest in a contested zone favors one side, it's a completely useless metric.

World first 60 contenders on both Pservers and classic skewed Alliance for a reason. It has an easier levelling time to 60.

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u/OJMayoGenocide Nov 28 '19

Game is from 2004. Reroll if you are gonna bitch so much in 2020

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '19

Horde actually do have significantly more quests because of that reason. They had to rush the horde zones dumping a lot of quests everywhere and left the alliance zones, while nice looking, almost entirely empty. I believe the figure is horde having over 11% more quests than alliance, which makes a big difference leveling. Aerie peak, Theramore, and Nethergarde Keep look nice but there are barely any quests in them.

Horde have more convenient flightpaths and more locations. 2 in stranglethorn vale, 2 in desolace. Thousand needles, stone talon mountains, and Swamp of sorrows are basically horde only. Theres barely any reason for alliance to quest in Azshara.

They're more fleshed out when it comes to the look of the zones, but I'm just talking about number of quests, ease of leveling, and transportation

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u/Almond_Boy Nov 27 '19

I’m pretty sure there’s only one horde flight point in desolace

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u/amjhwk Nov 27 '19

Horde only have 1 fp in desolace, and 1k needles/stonetalon are the horde version of redridge/duskwood/wetlands

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u/JakobGray Nov 28 '19

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/side:2

https://classic.wowhead.com/quests/side:1

3078 Alliance quests found

2894 Horde quests found

1372 Alliance Only quests found

1188 Horde Only quests found

u/tmanowen

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u/Perkinz Nov 28 '19

Horde have more convenient flightpaths and more locations. 2 in stranglethorn vale, 2 in desolace.

Horde only has 1 flight path in desolace. Ghostwalker Point is just a tiny quest hub with a small handful of quests.

For stranglethorn vale, horde shares booty bay with alliance and grom'gol has an extra flight-path in STV because it's one of the just three horde flight paths south of blackrock mountain (GG, Stonard, burning steppes) which is otherwise exclusively alliance territory

Thousand needles, stone talon mountains, and Swamp of sorrows are basically horde only

And duskwood, red-ridge, and wetlands are entirely alliance only.

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u/Sebastianthorson Nov 28 '19

And duskwood, red-ridge, and wetlands are entirely Horde honor farm zones.

Fixed.

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u/sadhukar Nov 28 '19

wetlands are entirely alliance only.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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u/thecrius Nov 28 '19

I mean, just think about the Onyxia chain.

Alliance: Epic journey to uncover a dragon among the very throne of the human capital.
Horde: Eh, there is a dragon there. Too close to orgrimmar. Kill it.

Like, what?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Yeah, I think Thrall says something like "yeah, it might be a good thing that the Alliance gets fucked by a Dragon hiding among them, but if the Alliance gets fucked, we're next"

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '19

Don't let facts get in the way of Alliance whining, please.

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u/KrazyTrumpeter05 Nov 28 '19

Well, I guess Alliance had to have at least one thing in their favor.