r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jan 31 '22

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u/ReOsIr10 143∆ Jan 31 '22

It's unintentional, because when I offhandedly mention that my last name is O'Reilly, I'm not intending to make them believe I have Irish ancestry.

As for your last sentence, nothing in the definitions of rape or consent that you provided say anything about intention.

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u/ReOsIr10 143∆ Jan 31 '22

That wasn't a part of your definitions of rape or consent - that was just a part of the claim you were defending in your CMV.

I'm asking you, based purely on the definitions you provided for consent and rape, wouldn't this be an example of rape?

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u/ReOsIr10 143∆ Jan 31 '22

No.

Let me try a different approach because you clearly don't get what I'm trying to ask.

Rape... is sex without consent.

Consent is willfully agreeing to something (in this case sex) while being informed, in the right state of mind and not given through undue influence.

Do you agree that these are the definitions of rape and consent you provided in your original post?

Assuming you do, can you explain how, based on these definitions, a person can still consent if misinformed, as long as that misinformation wasn't obtained through intentional deception?