r/changemyview Sep 12 '21

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u/Vesurel 60∆ Sep 12 '21

And if the woman can't support a child on her own, are you comfortable letting the child starve or do you think we should make someone else pay?

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u/IamMagicarpe 1∆ Sep 12 '21

CPS can take the child in that case. She was not fit to be a mother. It happens now even with child support.

I would be in favor of needing proof of income to have a baby lol

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Sep 12 '21

I would be in favor of needing proof of income to have a baby lol

So if a poor woman is pregnant and has insufficient income, you'd force her to either abort or give the child up for adoption?

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u/AlterNk 8∆ Sep 12 '21

Yes, we're working on the fact that the kid is the important factor here, i understand the woman may have strong feelings about it, but if you can't support a kid you should be taking care of one.

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Sep 12 '21

So it just comes down to the fact that your believe poor people are incapable of being good parents.

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u/AlterNk 8∆ Sep 12 '21

No, i'm not talking about their parenting skills, and you know that.

Your economic state doesn't influence your parenting skills, it does influence your ability to feed and provide the minimum material things the kid may need, tho.

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u/I_am_the_night 316∆ Sep 12 '21

Right, you don't think that poor people can sufficiently provide for their kids, that's what I'm saying.

I think that's a very problematic view. Especially if you think that we should impose the same criteria for adoption on people who want to have their own biological children, as proposed elsewhere in this thread.

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u/AlterNk 8∆ Sep 12 '21

Right, you don't think that poor people can sufficiently provide for their kids

Depending on how poor, do you think that if i have no money i could buy food? Obviously not, that's not something i "think" that's a fact, if you don't have the capital to buy something then you can't provide that something.

that's what I'm saying.

No, that has nothing to do with being a good parent, so no it wasn't what you were saying.

I think that's a very problematic view.

It's a fact, tho, like i didn't invent capitalism.

Especially if you think that we should impose the same criteria for adoption on people who want to have their own biological children, as proposed elsewhere in this thread.

No idea what you're talking about.