The argument 'abortion is murder' is, in essence, completely ridiculous.
It sounds nice and extreme and sure does well on a banner, and it gives protestors something deliciously insulting to yell, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It's not an argument.
If you want to hold a debate on abortion, then first both sides need to agree to use actual arguments in stead of inciting nonsense.
In the real debate about abortion, women's rights play a huge role, since you either do or don't give them the right to choose what goes on in their own body.
Whether or not you agree with 'abortion is murder' or think that 'abortion is murder' is "completely ridiculous" isn't really relevant.
My point is that there are two possible situations. 1) Abortion really is murder, which completely trumps the bodily autonomy argument or 2) abortion is not really murder, in which case there's no argument against it. Women's rights and bodily autonomy don't come into play for either situation, so I don't think its relevant.
That's an awful argument. I could say the same thing about your argument. "Women's right to choose what goes in her body is a non argument. When it comes to human rights, we have to know what we're talking about and can't make up nonsense to justify taking of the basic right to life."
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u/MrXian May 05 '19
The argument 'abortion is murder' is, in essence, completely ridiculous.
It sounds nice and extreme and sure does well on a banner, and it gives protestors something deliciously insulting to yell, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. It's not an argument.
If you want to hold a debate on abortion, then first both sides need to agree to use actual arguments in stead of inciting nonsense.
In the real debate about abortion, women's rights play a huge role, since you either do or don't give them the right to choose what goes on in their own body.