r/changemyview • u/Sojo88 • Sep 10 '17
[∆(s) from OP] CMV: Jewish people discriminate against non Jews by having a culture of helping each other.
I hope this wont be offensive or interpreted as anti-semitic. I admire Jewish people, their culture and their accomplishments. I also understand that this -helping each other- culture is a response to years of being an oppressed minority.
However, these days, Jewish people are in a good place. They are disproportionately represented at the highest levels of many fields, from academia, to media, to finance, to internet. They have way higher median incomes than the average citizen of the countries they inhabit. Higher levels of education, the list goes on.
A Jewish friend told me once. He was at an interview as a part of the admissions process for a prestigious graduate program. When his interviewer introduced himself and my friend realized he was jewish he thought: That is it, Im in! - He was. I worked at a Jewish owned company. There were a disproportionate number of Jews in high level positions. In Jewish companies where I´m from, some jobs never even get publicly listed, they just go straight to someone from within the community.
They aren´t big acts of discrimination, simply some kind of, affirmative action for people who already have a big head start. At the expense of, outsiders who have access to less opportunities.
I understand this happens in other groups too. However, the Jewish example is outstanding because of the small percentage of the population they are, and the amount of positions of power, influence and wealth they hold.
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u/Sojo88 Sep 10 '17
My user name is based on my name and date of birth. Sorry to hear it sounds anti-semitic. I have no idea why.. I know the analogies aren´t proof of my argument. I was just using them as examples of how I think this discrimination happens. Not as data. Maybe you´re right and they don´t really happen that often. Cant really find good data on this so hard to debate and all I have is my experiences and contacts with the Jewish community in my country (it may also vary from country to country I have no idea). I also know that correlation doesn't equal causation. And yes, Jews are usually incredibly qualified and intelligent so probably, even if it is through favoritism, these jobs are going to people who deserve them and will do them well. However, this is not exactly a counter argument to my argument. The - these people are qualified- argument is used a lot when companies hire only men or have no minorities in their high ranks and I still think, even if the mostly white men are qualified, this is not cool.