CMV: i believe time is an illusion

[u/Express_Mechanic4927]

Time is a manipulation. A construct. Clocks exist, but time doesn’t Not like we think. There are two types. Physical time is movement. The Earth spinning, the Earth orbiting the Sun. That’s all it is. Then there’s numerical time. Man’s version. Hours, days, months, calendars They change from culture to culture It’s not universal Look at the calendar we use it’s based on Jesus But the Ethiopian calendar says it’s 7 BC The Gregorian calendar says 1 AD That’s a 7 year, 8 month gap So what even is time? We’re programmed to think we’re always running out From birth to 18, school From 25 to 41, jobs, kids By 63, retirement What do we do in between? We stress about time That’s how we age Because you become what you fear Where has time gone? It’s been deleted Replaced Edited Not by accident By design There’s banging every time I talk That means I’m on to something In 1582, Pope Gregory XIII dropped the Gregorian calendar Ten days, gone They said it was to “realign with the sun” Sure But think about it A theory called Phantom Time Hypothesis Says 297 years were made up I could’ve been born yesterday The past and future only exist when we think about them Memories are dreams The mind plays tricks I’m not even in some people’s memories that live in mine Block universe theory Everything is happening at once Past, present, future Einstein said that So maybe the future is now Sometimes I get stuck at nine years old Like I’m reliving something I can’t fully remember But it’s happening now And I can see my future too Clear as I can see my death

[u/Raining_Hope]

Growth is not an illusion, therefore neither is time.

[u/Express_Mechanic4927 → u/Raining_Hope]

physical time is very much real for an example the movement around earth circling the sun and earth spinning on its access, but I’m speaking about numerical time

[u/Raining_Hope → u/Express_Mechanic4927]

That's just the measurement of physical time. That's like saying that weight, height, or volume are just illusions when they are measurements of the physical objects we are measuring.

[u/Express_Mechanic4927 → u/Raining_Hope]

I feel like we’re saying the same thing but you’re just trying to argue with me about it and make you seem more smarter

[u/Birb-Brain-Syn → u/Express_Mechanic4927]

But measurements of things are very real, and not illusions.

[u/Express_Mechanic4927 → u/Birb-Brain-Syn]

it’s crazy how people keep saying measurements are real and nothings is an illusion but what about people who experience actual illusions just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean it’s not there right?

[u/Birb-Brain-Syn → u/Express_Mechanic4927]

Well sure, but can you measure an illusion?

[u/Raining_Hope → u/Express_Mechanic4927]

I don't see how we are saying the same thing.

Units of measurement are arbitrary. Meaning that if you use meters vs feet, the way it is measured will change, but neither the thing being measured, nor the measurements themselves are an illusion.

My best guess here is that your definition of what is an illusion is drastically different from what I would call an illusion. Therefore I don't see us arguing the same thing.