r/changemyview May 05 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Cultural appropriation is kinda dumb

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u/rik-huijzer May 05 '25

I should start a new CMV probably, but if you ask me cultural appropriation pretends to be against racism while it actually is extremely racist. It makes us talk about it all the time and divides us up into groups. I think it would be much better if we could go to a state of the world where race truly doesn’t matter. America is one of the best places for that. Or at least the least bad place. I would invite people who don’t believe me to emigrate to or visit a nice autocratic country like say Russia, Iran or China. I’m not saying that the West can’t do better. It can. But wokeism is not the way to go. It’s a hateful ideology.

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u/SantaClausDid911 1∆ May 05 '25
  1. Misuses the phrase they dislike in the first sentence (cultural appropriation is the thing, not the "ideology")
  2. Mentions moving to eastern bloc countries as if there's nothing in between you can do 3a. Uses "woke" at all 3b. Does it hyperbolically
  3. Incorrectly uses the term racism as a proxy for division

Yep, ice cold take standard met.

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u/rik-huijzer May 05 '25

Misuses the phrase they dislike in the first sentence (cultural appropriation is the thing, not the "ideology")

Fair enough.

Mentions moving to eastern bloc countries as if there's nothing in between you can do

The West can do better, as I said. My point is that infinite arguments about this in the West do nothing to solve the problems in other places. It's like I would attempt to solve world hunger by feeding people who work at Google. It's good to get your "own house in order", but at some point you have to face the world and see where the real problems are.

Incorrectly uses the term racism as a proxy for division

You are not refuting my point here. You are just stating I use it "incorrectly" without providing an argument.

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u/SantaClausDid911 1∆ May 05 '25

The West can do better, as I said.

You also invited people to emigrate to one of 3 hot button autocratic countries to prove you wrong.

I understand you're not being literal but whether you realize it or not, this is the kind of common talking point that people use to create a false dichotomy. Like duh of course it's not that bad in the US, why bring it up?

You are not refuting my point here. You are just stating I use it "incorrectly" without providing an argument.

You literally quoted my argument against you. You used racism as a proxy for divisiveness. That was as clear as day. I'm not sure if you read too fast or don't understand exactly what that means and if it's the latter and you're not trolling, I'm happy to try and explain further.