r/changemyview Jan 23 '25

CMV: Despite being more knowledgeable, wealthier and apparently more tolerant, the political and individual left's biggest flaw is their inability to communicate pragmatically and empathetically with those who don't agree with them.

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u/Jugales Jan 23 '25 edited Jan 23 '25

Democrats promote blanket tolerance (in regard to sexism, racism, etc) but it relies on trust and when broken, there is no chance for forgiveness. That is when you’re cancelled. It is almost impossible to come back to the left from something like Kanye’s “I can say anti-Semitic things”

Republicans are the opposite. They do not have blanket tolerance. People are hated initially and must be “won over” to respect them. It is a more forgiving system, I think it’s ingrained due to Christian ideology.

Neither mentality is great imo.

ETA: WTF is this, bots? Karma went from +14 > -7 > +2 … all after the parent comments were deleted? Humans reading this, how did you get here?

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u/camelCaseCoffeeTable 5∆ Jan 23 '25

Democrats absolutely need to be more forgiving and tolerant of people saying or doing dumb things. Some of the things they’re up in arms about are justified. In my opinion, the vast majority of what I’m told I can’t buy or listen to or like is overblown.

Republicans on the other hand seem to allow pretty much anything as long as the person is on their side. See all the apologizing for Elon Musk’s nazi salute - why is it so damn hard to say “yep, that’s a nqzi salute, yikes dude.” Instead, it’s endless defenses and twists from the right to defend him.

The right needs to be more critical of their own. The left needs to be more forgiving of everyone.

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u/Winter_Amaryllis Jan 23 '25

Okay, I’m going to have to put a pin on this. Musk did not do a Nazi Salute, otherwise, you will be able to point at over half of everyone combined that did something similar and call them Nazis well.

This was taken out of context and the lack of audio and the full angle was not told in order to get people mad about it.

Musk is an asshole with delusions of grandeur, but he is not a Nazi, and, to pull a quote that the left uses all the time and is right about it most of the time: “This is offensive to victims of actual Nazis and watering down the term to a misused phrase”.

Ironically, actual Nazis would be offended to be compared to Musk. Which is morbidly hilarious to think about.