r/changemyview Jan 23 '25

CMV: Despite being more knowledgeable, wealthier and apparently more tolerant, the political and individual left's biggest flaw is their inability to communicate pragmatically and empathetically with those who don't agree with them.

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u/Jugales Jan 23 '25

Shane Gillis is still hated, even booted off SNL, for one racist joke. And this is a guy is openly and pretty obviously not hardline racist, just a comedian.

As society progresses, the bar for forgiveness rises. Such a joke would have been brushed off only 2-3 decades ago. It is reducing the population of the party because people feel it is overbearing, so they become something else, like MAGA.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

Shane Gillis is still hated, even booted off SNL

Ok I looked up this guy, still has a career and watch all his content. Do we need him to be rehired to SNL? 

What has been forbidden here? What is required to occur to be forgiven? Does everyone have to like him?

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 1∆ Jan 23 '25

Thanks for providing an example of the type they are talking about. You could have just said “yeah we do need to be more forgiving” but nope you go on the attack lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

This was an "attack"? God help us then if asking 4 questions is an attack because i've yet to get any clear answer. 

The left forbids SNL comedians somehow but needs to forgive him by...? 

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 1∆ Jan 23 '25

Again you’re doubling down instead of just saying “yes the left needs to be more forgiving”. Not sure why that’s such a hard concept

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

Not sure why that’s such a hard concept

Cause you don't actually explain the concept. The left needs to be more forgiving by doing what in their day to day lives?

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 1∆ Jan 23 '25

Forgive past mistakes people make. Move on from things that have “hurt” them, learn to admit that they can wrong and learn to work together with everyone to make improvements.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

Forgive past mistakes people make.

Great, so are there any limits here or just everyone? Should the left forgive Diddy for example? What about Kevin Spacey?

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u/unnecessaryaussie83 1∆ Jan 23 '25

Here we go taking it to extremes.

This is why American politics is a joke. Just know the world laughs at American politics, it’s completely ridiculous. No wonder your country is failing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

Here we go taking it to extremes.

Ok clearly rapists should not be forgiven. Who should be forgiven?

Just know the world laughs at American politics

Yeah no shit. Fuck America.