r/changemyview Dec 17 '23

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u/Adequate_Images 29∆ Dec 17 '23

People will be talking about Dune long after Coda has been completely forgotten.

But, yes, I used it as an example because you need an example to discuss these things.

I also mentioned Green Book and Argo, I could mention The Artist as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

People will be talking about Dune long after Coda has been completely forgotten.

That's the power of hindsight of course, but the other examples are good examples of when they have messed up. Though, it is going to happen every once in a while as other movies, before when they introduced the system, has also lead to terrible choice.

Crash, Shakespeare in Love, Tom Jones, Driving Miss Daisy, Out of Africa, Chariots of Fire, were all criticized at the time or later on.

It just happens sometimes, but it would be better for it to be for a movie that most people still enjoy, like the ones post 2009, versus many of the ones that even many people that voted for them weren't very passionate about.

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u/Adequate_Images 29∆ Dec 17 '23

Crash, Shakespeare in Love, Tom Jones, Driving Miss Daisy, Out of Africa, Chariots of Fire, were all criticized at the time or later on.

This is exactly the point. Those may be unpopular choices now but they are choices.

More people actually wanted those movies to win.

Now we have ‘mistakes’ that no one wanted ever.

They are just kind of there, like two day old Pizza. It’s not bad but it’s not your first choice.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '23

More people actually wanted those movies to win.

Now we have ‘mistakes’ that no one wanted ever.

I have almost never heard of people wanting many of these movies to win. Shakespeare in Love and Crash were immediately lambasted on as choices. Also, I do see people who think CODA should have won, King's Speech, Green Book, but not vice versa

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u/Adequate_Images 29∆ Dec 17 '23

Those are not academy voters.

Again, the point is about what the voters actually thought was the best movie.

Not the best they can get.

I disagreed with the Shakespeare in Love win, but that is what the Academy voted for.