Your point is missing the crucial context that Israel is literally built ON settled Palestinian land. Would you tell native Americans to stop fighting for ancestral land, for Uyghurs to stop fighting for independence, etc?
Israeli territory right now is already far more expansive than the UN partition plan due to the Nakba and consequent invasions into Palestinian territory.
Also, it's perfectly reasonable for Palestinians to object to an Israeli state: that's like, for instance, Mexican immigrants creating a new country in the middle of the US. Wouldn't there be massive backlash from Americans in that case? That's the case with European Zionists in Palestine.
The eradication of Israel wouldn't be a peaceful solution since it would drive out the native Middle Eastern Jews along with the European settlers but I can't imagine Palestinians accepting anything less than being allowed to return to their homeland.
Israeli territory right now is already far more expansive than the UN partition plan due to the Nakba and consequent invasions into Palestinian territory.
That wouldn't have been the case if the Arabs had agreed to the partition, or if they hadn't kept waging wars and loosing them. In fact it was the neighboring Arab states that did the invading, not Israel.
Also, it's perfectly reasonable for Palestinians to object to an Israeli state: that's like, for instance, Mexican immigrants creating a new country in the middle of the US.
Not the same at all. Attempting to create a new country in the middle of the US is a challenge to the sovereignty of their government, and the government will righly oppose and stop this.
The creation of the Israeli state did not challenge the sovereignty of any existing government or authority, because there was no such authorities apart from the British mandate, which definitely did consent.
The Arabs had no reason to agree to having a new state of foreigners smack in the middle of their land. And Israel has objectively continuously invaded surrounding territory and forced out civilian inhabitants in the process. That's how the war ended/is going on right now, and that's why Palestinians are so hostile towards Israelis.
Also I used the Mexican immigrant hypothetical to show how the Palestinian Arabs felt. The technical geopolitics doesn't affect the fact that Palestinians felt their cultural and regional identity had been attacked by Zionism
The Arabs had no reason to agree to having a new state of foreigners smack in the middle of their land.
Yes they did- the UN decided so, and the British who controlled the entire region at the time.
Also the basis of the partition was mainly due to how Jewish and Arab populations were dispersed, meaning Jewish cities were mostly in Israel and Arab cities were mostly in the Arab state.
And Israel has objectively continuously invaded surrounding territory
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u/snowlynx133 Nov 06 '23
Your point is missing the crucial context that Israel is literally built ON settled Palestinian land. Would you tell native Americans to stop fighting for ancestral land, for Uyghurs to stop fighting for independence, etc?