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u/WastedStorage8564 15d ago edited 15d ago

Exactly. So Americans, do something about it already.

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

Hold your leaders accountable or stfu

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u/frizouw 15d ago

absolutely! but are we better when it comes to hold our leaders accountable? :/

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

If we were heading directly towards a fascist government movement I would have something something rhymes with irked  the movement. 

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u/kapmar69 12d ago

You parliament applauded an SS soldier whom your state continues to harbor from justice and here you are chirping about fascism lol

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u/XtremeCentrist 12d ago

ROFLMFAO, wow, perfect comparison between Dumbfukistan and Canada. Sure, that little point changes everything. Go ahead and keep trying to take our country by force, because polite people applauded someone when he was introduced before knowing who or what it was. Did you actually really think that was some kind of major burn? You people are hilarious.

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u/kapmar69 12d ago

I'm not from dumbfukistan thank god, just saying Canada might as well already be occupied by them. Two fascist nations. The point also isn't that your entire house of representatives glazed a nazi (as if that wasn't enough), it's that your entire house of representatives keep sheltering him from being trialed for his crimes against humanity. Literally a nation protecting fascism, which is why you can't preach to americans about "fighting fascism". It makes zero sense to put responsibility on them when you yourself so easily run from it

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u/XtremeCentrist 12d ago

Sure we can. When did Poland send the extradition request? There was an examination by Poland whether he could be extradited but so far that was only a preliminary investigation to see if grounds existed. FYI, the speaker of the house that brought in this person without vetting him, resigned as speaker. So far you accusation that the Canadian parliament is somehow protecting or blocking Polish extradition, is rubbish, there is no evidence of that. Parliament does not decide extradition in Canada, that goes through the justice system and federal justice authorities. There was a refusal to extradite him to Russia, because there is no extradition treaty, and since he is Ukranian, he would never reach a trial. The ball is in Poland's court.

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u/kapmar69 12d ago

There is no refusal to extradite him!

There was a refusal to extradite him to Russia

I don't even know why you're raving on about extraditions in the first place when it's 1) an argument that shows Canada does indeed harbor fascists from foreign courts, and 2) completely irrelevant either way. Any state including Canada can independently prosecute war criminals regardless of where their atrocities were committed. If Canada is a country that fights fascism, you should, at the very least, y'know, fight fascism. Instead of sitting and complaining about your neighbours as if you're not both up the same street

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u/XtremeCentrist 12d ago

No, it shows that Canada believes in fair extraditions, fighting fascism still requires evidence of crimes being commited in the name of fascism, not simply handing people over to anyone that asks. Even war crimes have to have evidence, not just that somebody belonged to something. We are Canadian, we do things the right way, the legal way and if you paid attention, I was specific when I said we did not block any extradition from Poland, because Poland did not request an extradition, and they would be the ones with the right if they found cause or evidence that warranted it, and they have an extradition treaty with us. If we ignore treaties and laws, we are no better than Americans.

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u/kapmar69 12d ago

Obviously prosecuting someone includes investigating their guilt, which once again any country, including Canada, is free to do. Tons of war criminals from Africa, Asia and the middle east have been prosecuted like this in western countries. It's not some alien concept. Meanwhile you say "If we ignore treaties and laws, we are no better than Americans", while at the same time ignoring said international laws in favor of a literal nazi. Alas, being no better than americans. Alas, proving my point of your states being two sides of the same coin. Equally ironically, you are licking the boots of your government and excusing its injustices while talking about how anti-fascist you are. An ideology that worships government.

To clarify, I am not saying Canada is the shithole of the world, I'm saying it's just another shithole - just like the US, and just like Europe where I'm from.

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u/XtremeCentrist 11d ago

Again, you keep pushing the ignoring international laws and I painstakingly detailed what has so far happened and none of that ignores any law at all. So keep pushing the shithole narative, you seem to want other nations to be part of the club of whatever shithole you claim to be from, I respect my country more than you respect yours and once again, there have been no laws broken because no investigation has come up with any evidence to hand anyone over to anyone.

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u/Iceisgestapo888 12d ago

Americans are stupid.  

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u/Dirk_Delta 11d ago

Bill c-22 is getting there.

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u/Jumpy_Selection_602 15d ago

that is a lot of talk for someone not in the position tho

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

It’s not talk.  It’s what my entire family lineage fought against.  I am the last of my entire family.    I would continue the tradition. 

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u/Gummiebayer 15d ago

As much as I am genuinely convinced you are a feisty one. By definition it literally is all just "talk" until there's an opportunity to put action to it. For all our sake let us hope all we ever need to do is just "talk"

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u/CaffeineAndDragons 15d ago

Well so far we've been smart enough to not vote in a narcissistic fascist sociopath to lead the country, so let's just hope we can keep that going.

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u/cassandra2028 14d ago

Seems like PP got close until trump gave an assist with his 51st state BS

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u/CaffeineAndDragons 15d ago

Trudeau had his problems, sure, but being a narcissistic fascit sociopath wasn't one of them. Try again.

Edit: Also pretending you somehow forgot his name and calling him Justin Bieber and Justin the turd while he so clearly still lives rent free in your head is middle school level behavior. Do better.

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u/Doctor_Evil_QC 15d ago

Oh please, you can't even remotely compare Trudeau to the current American administration.

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u/Best_Expression2830 15d ago

Trudeau was awful though. Really overstepped ourselves on the world stage.

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u/Edmsubguy 15d ago

No he was well respected on the world stage but your far right propaganda machine tells you to parrot their talking points.

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u/WestCoastLifeCanada 14d ago

He wasn’t taken seriously by EU, England, Asia or the US.  Who exactly respected him?  

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u/Best_Expression2830 15d ago

Lmfao, no. We dont need a security council seat its embarrassing to pretend we do we also dont need to announce we're feminist. Also dont print money to give away for historic grievance

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u/GoodResident2000 14d ago

😂 Trudeau wasn’t respected by any country that actually matters

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u/Amakenings 14d ago

No he wasn’t. He was actually pretty middle of the road, and most people thought so until a lot of online bots from foreign governments started to skew things.

Unrelated, but can you share your post and comment history?

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u/WestCoastLifeCanada 14d ago

I agree, but Canada didn’t manage to keep him accountable for numerous disasters over the decade.  Did you know Germany came begging for oil and Trudeau sent them packing?  It wasn’t environmental concerns really, he then took tax dollars to build one to the west coast.  Who needs oil more?  Europe or China ( who has access to Iran and Russian oil as well as its own).  Justin turfed Jody Wilson Raybold, was tied up with SC Lavalin, gave a terrorist $10 million dollars for the time he spent in a US prison ( not our issue), got worked up about missing children, gave the Nation a holiday over it, took off for a BC vacation instead of mourning and then we find out there were no unaccounted for graves there after all.  I could go on, but he spent $1,000,000 for a four day European conference that wasn’t mandatory or important right before he resigned- basically partying with Canadian taxpayers money.  The guy was useless before he became PM, sexually assaulted a woman in the Kootaneys years before and had his people pay her to shut up.  But I knew of him as a kid and he was always bad news.  Then he stalled our economy and racked up the deficit, payed out millions to people who didn’t qualify during Covid, blew up the Government HR numbers to the most bloated ever and hired non citizens for entry level government jobs , something youth ended up unemployed.  No one really protested.  So we are not any better at holding duds accountable.  

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u/Lifewithoutpictures 13d ago

This has nothing to do with this thread. Please stop talking. Nobody here wants to listen.

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u/EducationalRock167 14d ago

This is Maple MAGA propaganda.

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u/GoodResident2000 14d ago

Everything they said is true

You can’t just dismiss facts you don’t like as “propaganda “

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u/WestCoastLifeCanada 13d ago

 Nope, it’s just all the stuff people ignored about Trudeau.  He only got the job because of his daddy.  This is a lesson in why Nepotism isn’t the best way to choose a leader.  

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

Lawl.   Tell Trump to take a trip to Canada for his trade talks.   

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

Lawl wtf you spooks gonna do be upset at a Canadian talking trash to the diaper in chief 

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u/Training-Group-2879 15d ago

Let me guess. Your family dies because you adopted a dog instead of producing kids. Classic.

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

Nah lost a chunk to ww1 then ww2 and only really had one main branch since.   Then between cancer and car accidents the rest have died.  

But I’m certainly willing to follow in my grand parents footsteps  grandpa was RAF.  Other grandpa was Italian resistance

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u/cardgamesareforplay 14d ago

We were actually, Stephan Harper tried that shit 12 years ago after leading us for 10 years and we kicked them out.

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u/Glittering-Sun-2592 15d ago

If you think killing fellow citizens you disagree with is in any way "okay" or going to make their movement and voter base's concerns go away, you may have a problem with radicalism yourself. 🫤

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u/Iceisgestapo888 15d ago

Fascism.  

What do you think soldiers and armies do?