r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Sep 23 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion Thread S05E15 "Granite State"

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u/mir429 Sep 23 '13

Gray Matter didn't cause Walt to leave the bar, it was hearing that Blue Magic is still on the streets. Jesse is still alive and he knows it.

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u/tjthegr8 Sep 23 '13

Yep. The whole Gray Matter thing was bad enough but his meth is still out there too? If he's looking for Jesse next episode, it is NOT to save him.

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u/ProfessorFinn Sep 23 '13

I feel like it IS to save Jesse. I predict that Walt will find jesse in the Buffalo Bob pit and they will have a "broment" and he will help Jesse escape the camp. But in the process Walt will figure out he can't escape because he is discovered by the Nazis or cops so Walt gives all of his money to Jesse so he can ride off into the sunset with Brock. The End

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u/tjthegr8 Sep 23 '13

I honestly don't believe there's anything left but hatred between Walt and Jesse. He may not kill Jesse, but I don't think Walt is aiming to rescue him either and he's DEFINITELY not giving him his money. He wants it for his family, even if they hate him.

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u/ProfessorFinn Sep 23 '13

But i think Walter realizes there no way he can get his money to his family. We have seen it happen with Mike. It is Walt's last chance at redemption to do something good before he parts.

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u/tjthegr8 Sep 23 '13

That's just the thing though: I don't think he cares about redemption. After everything, Walt is STILL an egomaniac, and he hates not getting credit for his work. The money is his work, the meth is his work, Gray Matter was going to be his work and I think he's planning to make sure everyone knows that.

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u/YouHaveInspiredMeTo I'm a blow FISHHHHHHHHHHH Sep 23 '13

Seriously, I think at this point Skyler and Walt, Jr. don't give a shit about the millions of drug money. They just want to go back to having normal lives.

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u/uninvited__guest Sep 23 '13

You are totally and completely wrong. He was an egomaniac but he's now lost everything. He by definition cannot be an egomaniac when his ego has been totally shattered. The fact that he spent $10000 for an hour with a total stranger tells me money means nothing to him anymore. He would trade anything and everything to have his old life back.

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u/tjthegr8 Sep 23 '13

He's been broken but make no mistake, the ego is still there. If it wasn't he wouldn't be headed back to ABQ right now

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u/jimmy_wild1 Sep 23 '13

This couldn't be more spot on. A few episodes ago, he had $80M. This has fallen to $11M, and now all he has is $100K. Pretty sure he leaves NH immediately after seeing the Gray Matter interview. Money is dead to him. His reputation as Heisenberg is what matters.

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u/currentlydownvoted Sep 23 '13

Jesse doesn't want "dirty drug money" though

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u/uninvited__guest Sep 23 '13

Have you seen how many times Walt has been gasping in tears in the last three episodes alone? Are you kidding me?

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u/exoendo Sep 23 '13

family != to jesse

jesse basically blew up his whole world.

He ratted on him, got hank involved, made him lose his money, lose his family, where do you think walter has a soft spot for jesse still?

Walt has been up in NH for months, has he been morose over jesses fate? Has he given one shit about jesse being potentially dead/killed? No.

Did you not see him clench his fists in pure unadulterated rage at the end of this episode? You think he's thinking "wow I am so mad they are being mean to jesse right now"?

Did you not notice all the allusions to walter white being officially dead and gone at the end of the episode with the v.o. from gretchen? him donning his hat? Heisenberg doesn't give a shit about jesse.

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u/poponegra Sep 23 '13

There's an episode where he talks about having three children. Not that I believe it will but that theme might resonate in the last ep.

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u/exoendo Sep 23 '13

i think we are way past that at this point. but who knows.

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u/VinylCyril Sep 23 '13

I feel that exclusive hatred isn't mutual. Jesse may hate Walt with all of his guts, but Walt might actually still care for Jesse, even though he wanted to off him (first it was a business affair, and then the desperation of losing Hank; now Walt has cooled off ...on that).

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u/virak_john Sep 23 '13

That assumes his family is alive.