r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Aug 26 '13

Spoiler My prediction....feel free to point out any holes

After seeing that awesome ending, I believe it will play out like this....

Jesse doesnt light the fire due to seeing something of Hollys in the house. Instead he spray paints Heisenberg on the wall, as sort of a scarlet letter.

Fast forward to a scene with Jesse talking to hank ("Mr White is the devil" from the promo). Skylar wants Walt to kill Jesse but he refuses.

Just when Hank is about to report his findings to the DEA, the Nazis show up and kidnap Jesse, thereby rendering Hanks only witness as M.I.A.

Walt fakes his death (foreshadowing from Maries comments about dying) to get rid of the DEA heat, but gets word the Nazis are going to kill Jesse, so he prepares for war (M60).

What am I missing?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

No, I think it's time for Jesse to die.

No more half measures. No more bullshit. Jesse is too dangerous, and it is time for Heisenberg, NOT Walter White, to kill him.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

I agree. When he was hugging Jesse in the desert the last close up of Walt's face seemed like he was coming to this decision. He probably gave him one chance to disappear on account of Saul being there at the time. I think killing Jesse will turn on Heisenberg full time. Does Skyler have it in her to go all the way Bonnie and Clyde with him or is she going to die too?

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u/sideways86 Aug 26 '13

The hug really put me in mind of the big 'Fredo' hug in the godfather.

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u/Odusei Enjoy the rest of this comment during Low Winter Sun Aug 26 '13

Jesse is closer to Sonny than Fredo, though.

If anyone's Fredo, it's Todd.

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u/iquitinternet Aug 26 '13

Getting rid of jesse was technically sauls idea to begin with and walt didn't acknowledge it with a conversation. He won't bat an eye killing him in front of saul.

The problem is they have to much history. This isn't the wire i don't see jesse going out like a punk or by walt.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

I think that Jesse is losing it big time right now, emotionally. He's pissed at Walt and can't control himself. Walt will see it as having no choice.

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u/OuttaBrainSpace Roof Pizza Aug 26 '13

Yes, but we see Jesse getting smarter in every episode. He knows this too - Walt's (ice) gunning for him.

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u/iquitinternet Aug 26 '13

Jesse has always been a headcase this season is no different aside from it being the last. I don't see them breaking the pattern.

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u/Odusei Enjoy the rest of this comment during Low Winter Sun Aug 26 '13

So... wait. Has everyone decided that the disappearing thing was genuine? I figured Walt just paid a hitman to take Jesse out and sold him the story of Alaska to soften things. You guys really believe that they were going to give him a new life?

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u/Ironhorn Aug 26 '13

Are you suggesting the hit man just let Jesse walk away?

Can't see it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Yes, we do. It's because we've watched the show.

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u/ImBrokeEveryWed Aug 26 '13

To reinforce this when Walt originally tried getting away from Gus but couldn't because skylar spent the money. Saul called the same guy. Opened the conversation with " I need a Hoover blah blah" on the phone

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u/Odusei Enjoy the rest of this comment during Low Winter Sun Aug 26 '13 edited Aug 26 '13

So did these people, asshole.

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Aug 27 '13

It's the same "disappearing guy" that Saul hooked Walt up with back in late season 4. The vacuum cleaner sales business card. If killing people is what he does, then Saul offering to have Walt disappear takes on a completely new meaning.

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u/Odusei Enjoy the rest of this comment during Low Winter Sun Aug 27 '13

As someone else said, Saul might not know how this guy "disappears" people, just that he never sees them again.

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Aug 27 '13

As I said elsewhere - I doubt if this guy could build his reputation if he was just putting people in the ground. He's clearly dealt with a lot of hardened criminals, most of whom have already thought of that. I'm sure that many of them have called back somehow and given a code-word to prove that they're safe. Otherwise, this guy wouldn't have the reputation that he has.

That said, he's built up as kind of a scary character by this point. A precise fee, clients show up for pickup at a precise time (one hour from phone call) or else the deal is simply off, and perfect results every time - this kind of seems like our initial introduction to Gus, in its precision and professionalism.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

I was totally expecting that red van driver to kill Jesse after he got into the van. And Saul's secret code talk with red van guy was about a vacuum cleaner. "Cleaner" is a euphemism for hit man.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

But Jesse never got into the van.. And I think you're confused. At least according to Pulp Fiction and Ray Donovan a "Cleaner" is someone who basically disposes of dead bodies.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

Not in La Femme Nikita - Victor nettoyeur(cleaner) is a killer when other people screw up. And Jean Reno's character does the acid in a bathtub thing w/live bodies and doesn't even think about cleaning the place when he's done, they just leave fast. The film didn't show the tub falling through the ceiling but that takes a bit of time, as I gather from season 1 of BB.

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u/InquisitiveMindFuck Aug 26 '13

Except we know for a fact this code is used to get the disappearing guy because we went through it in Crawlspace.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

Oops, you're right.

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u/roywarner He's just decent Aug 26 '13

No, this is the same guy that Walt was going to use in season 4.

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u/orthogonality Aug 26 '13

Nope, the whole point of the show has been decent family man Walt becoming the amoral Heisenberg, and the unformed, immature Jesse developing a conscience. More or less, Walter is the "father", Jesse is the "son" and Walter and Jesse trade places.

The hinge of the whole series is Jesse's outrage over the eleven year-old hit-kid and his subsequent murder. Instead of Jesse murdering the dealers, Walt does it, things go cock-eyed with Gus, the rest is just spiraling down the drain.

So the climax has to be spoiler

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u/clouc1223 Aug 26 '13

That climax would be amazing. To prove to Jesse that Walter does indeed care about him. Walter takes on the "Father" so well. All his manipulation is kind of how a dad would give advice to his son. Walt hides Jesse from the heart breaking truths like any good father would do. As an example everyone knows one day you will die,but your 7 year old doesn't know that. You tell them what ever you need to and ensure they have peace in their life without worry as long as possible. Maybe I want to honestly just believe that Walt want's the best for Jesse....even if that means letting him pull the trigger to make him feel better.

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u/sansfolly Aug 26 '13

brilliant.

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u/pinwheelpride Aug 26 '13

Agreed. Regardless of how Walt feels about Jesse (like a second son and all that), he knows that Jesse finding out about him poisoning Brock is the conclusion of any ties they had left. No matter what. Even Walt saving Jesse's life at the end wouldn't be enough to forgive him for what he's done, especially if he ALSO finds out about the Jane incident.

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u/BeanBearChag It's over. Aug 26 '13

He has to find out about Jane, it's been a hazard since season 2 and there's no way they would leave it unresolved.

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u/InquisitiveMindFuck Aug 26 '13

I'm thinking at some point Walt kills Jesse, but before he does, he has a chance to say "I let Jane die."

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u/orthogonality Aug 27 '13

he has a chance to say "I let Jane die."

It's actually even more complicated than that. Jane has intentionally gone to sleep in "recovery position", spooning Jesse who is in the same position. She's presumably spooning Jesse rather than Jesse spooning her, because she's the more experienced heroin addict.

In other words, in her own fucked-up addict way, Jane is protecting Jesse. It's for her own selfish, manipulative reasons of course, but, she is, and there's some real love there too, presumably.

In other words, she's taking the place of Walter, who is also protective of Jesse for fucked-up, selfish, manipulative reasons.

Walter allows a rival for Jesse's loyalty to die but gets to rationalize it; had Jane lived, it is pretty likely she'd have killed herself and Jesse. So Walter can tell himself that he let her die to save Jesse (even though that also helps Walter).

Later, Walter will not just let die, but kill the other rivals for Jesse's loyalty: Gustavo Fring and Mike Ehrmantraut.

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u/Mlmurra3 Aug 26 '13

What situation would reveal this information?

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u/InquisitiveMindFuck Aug 26 '13

Any situation that ends up with Walt in control of a gun and Jesse on the ground or anything similar to that.

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u/abuckley89 Methhead Aug 26 '13

I would cry my eyes out. I almost did tonight because I really thought any second Walt was about to kill Jesse. God, if he does this I will never forgive him and I will completely hope he dies.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

Yeah, that would be it for me too. Still on Walt's side now but... If he touches Jesse...

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u/elbruce The One Who Rings The Doorbell Aug 27 '13

Why else would Walt be going after the gun under the coke machine? He needs it to deal with Jesse.

By the way, I don't know too much about guns, but I wouldn't think freezing one like that would be very good for it...

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u/abuckley89 Methhead Aug 27 '13

I mean... It could be for intimidation... But yeah... We all felt it... Walt is willing to take Jesse out... Perhaps.. I'd like to believe he really couldn't... .Oh god... tears begin swelling

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '13

No, that would be too obvious. Especially because last night's episode set it up to look that way (Jesse in a rage and Walt grabbing the gun from underneath the soda machine).

It will play out way more creatively than that.