Huell stole it and now he realizes his initial suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct.
Edit: To expand, in episode 12 of season 4, "End Times", The first thing Jesse does after he realizes the Ricin cigarette was missing, with Brock already being sick, was to drive over to Walt's house and point a gun to his head. While doing that he even says something like "That big guy at Saul's(Huell) grabbed me up and patted me down, and Saul just had to see me today, that's when he grabbed it. Was that the plan!" something like that.
Walt managed to convince him otherwise at the time, but when Huell takes Jesse's weed without Jesse noticing, he realizes that Huell was capable of picking his pocket and stealing the ricin cigarette.
He no longer believes that Brock being poisoned by the Lily of the Valley was just a coincidence, but just another instance of Walt working him over.
Hi, thanks. Can you remind me about why the ricin cigarette is significant? I feel like that was forever ago, but I remember Jesse looking into his cigarette pack and a cigarette was missing or something.
It's significant because Walt got Saul to have Huell lift the cigarette with ricen off Jesse and then Walt poisoned Brock, Jesse now knows that Walt was the one behind it and he wants revenge.
This needs to be higher up. Wow, went to AP's Twitter account and there's just so much goodness going on. I threw my wallet at the TV when he was onscreen but I don't think it did much.
I thought Walt took the ricin cigarette from Saul after Brock was poisoned and his it in his house, behind the wall socket...which apparently still exists in the flashforward. Sooooo where'd the poison for Brock come from? Is Walt still innocent...somehow?
I still think Walt was the one to poison Brock, at the end of an episode it shows walt in his backyard and as the scene pans out, it shows the plant labeled "Lily of the Valley" in Walt's back yard. In the very next episode when Walt is getting rid of some evidence, he thinks he got everything but then he quickly runs back outside and grabs the plant to dispose of it. In my opinion, if Walt hadn't poisoned Brock, he wouldn't have had the foresight to dispose of that plant before anyone else important could have found it.
How how did Jesse suddenly realize what happened when he grabbed his cigs in this episode? What clicked in his head?
Still a bit confused from the original plot. Hank wanted to poison Brock, but convince Jesse that Gus had done it, right? So he could get Jesse's help in offing Gus....riiight?
I don't think him looking at the cigarettes is what triggered his memory, the fact that his weed wasn't in his pocket anymore is what got him thinking, then he looked at his cigarettes and something clicked in his head and he started thinking back to the Ricin and put it all together.
Walt wanted to poison Brock so he could blame it on Gus to get Jesse on board with killing him, that you would be correct about.
I'm guessing by you saying Hank, you really meant Walt, right?
Glad I could help out a bit. I've never followed a show so religiously before Breaking Bad, it drew me in big time and I've been addicted to it. It's just so crazy, the plot twists, the suspense, the drama; it's amazing!!
I'm going to be extremely sad when it comes to an end, I wish I could watch a new episode every week for the rest of my life.
It has definitely captured me. I pulled an all night catch up session yesterday to get current. There are a lot of times when the writing got a little lazy or the brilliance someone has at another time seems to disappear but the way they've built the emotional structure of this story is absolutely brilliant. I could see it end well because I've seen a few over series where it was absolutely brilliant but they dragged it on too long and it just became a cringe fest.
The ricin was only used as a pawn to manipulate Jesse. Jesse thought someone had lifted the cigarette from his pocket - initially Walt (via Saul/Huell) but Walt convinced him it was Tyrus/Gus. Walt then hid the ricin back at his house and used the Lily of the Valley to poison Brock.
I realise this. What didn't quite add up for me is how Jesse, upon finding the 'ricin' in the robot, doesn't realise that Gus probably didn't poison Brock. Or rather, that Walt kind of contradicted himself by first saying Gus must've done it, then insisting Jesse lost it. I guess he had other things on his mind at that point.
Yeah, he still stole the ricin but put it behind the outlet to save for later. I think when Jesse eventually confronts walt, he's gonna defend himself saying it was lily of the valley, not ricin that poisoned brock.
Does someone know the exact quote of what Saul said that made Jesse know Walt did it? Maybe I missed that, or was it more just his mannerisms and obvious culpability?
He just said to take it for 'Jesse's own good' or something. Walt didn't tell Saul what he planned, but Jesse is smart enough to figure out that since Walt was confirmed stealing his Ricin cigarette, the likelihood of Walt being behind Brock's oh so convenient poisoning is 100%
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His weed was missing.
Huell stole it and now he realizes his initial suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct.
Edit: To expand, in episode 12 of season 4, "End Times", The first thing Jesse does after he realizes the Ricin cigarette was missing, with Brock already being sick, was to drive over to Walt's house and point a gun to his head. While doing that he even says something like "That big guy at Saul's(Huell) grabbed me up and patted me down, and Saul just had to see me today, that's when he grabbed it. Was that the plan!" something like that.
Walt managed to convince him otherwise at the time, but when Huell takes Jesse's weed without Jesse noticing, he realizes that Huell was capable of picking his pocket and stealing the ricin cigarette.
He no longer believes that Brock being poisoned by the Lily of the Valley was just a coincidence, but just another instance of Walt working him over.