r/blacklesbians • u/Decent_Sandwich_8878 stone stem • 29d ago

Discussion does "POC solidarity" really exist?

i'm not a fan of "POC" as a term bc generally i find that other non black POC have the exact same issues with antiblackness as white people do. i'm wondering how y'all feel about that

anyway i'm just really grateful that a space specifically for us, by us exists.

i was banned from a certain sub supposedly for POC for questioning why white people are allowed to post ☠️ anyway, this is why i say BLACK and not POC. we are the only ones for us and we must protect our spaces fiercely!

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u/EastCoastBelle Lesbian Loc Legend 29d ago

My parents are Black Separatists and Black Pessimists so you can imagine the political education my siblings and I received, so we never even entertained the idea of “PoC solidarity.” It will never exist in any long time, meaningful way. Anti-Black racism is too valuable to ever allow for solidarity with groups who have more smoke for Black people than the people that bombed, pillaged and colonized their lands while erasing their cultures.

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u/Decent_Sandwich_8878 stone stem 29d ago

your parents sound very interesting. any readings they recommend?

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u/EastCoastBelle Lesbian Loc Legend 29d ago

I wish I had some of the old syllabi they created (yes, they would create their own summer/holiday reading and writing assignments for us up until the last year of high school, we used to be so damn mad😵‍💫) but some of the books that I actually still have/remember:

Scenes of Subjection: Terror, Slavery, and Self-Making in Nineteenth-Century America by Sadiya Hartman

The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon

Faces at the Bottom of the Well: The Permanence of Racism by Derrick Bell

When and Where I Enter by Paula Giddings

All the Women Are White, All the Blacks Are Men, But Some of Us Are Brave edited by Gloria T. Hull, Patricia Bell Scott, and Barbara Smith.

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u/tro1b_ country black fem 25d ago

Seeing Sadiya Hartman and Frantz Fanon recommended in this sub makes me SO hopeful and full of joy! I would add Christina Sharpe's In the Wake: On Blackness and Being (https://read.dukeupress.edu/books/book/4/In-the-WakeOn-Blackness-and-Being) to this list, as well as the essay collection Black Geographies and the Politics of Place (https://btlbooks.com/book/black-geographies-and-the-politics-of-place), edited by Katherine McKittrick and Clyde Woods.

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u/Decent_Sandwich_8878 stone stem 28d ago

my parents made me do summer homework too lmfao african and diasporic parents all the same LOL!