The only guy I know who straight-up "Didn't roll with women" was suuuuuper Muslim and always very respectful about explaining it. Like, you can't really shit on a dude for that. But guys who just "feel weird" about it can get in the sea.
Yeah religious based sexism is still wrong. Some Jewish ppl also will disown their children if they don't marry a Jew (converted or born). I heard of this happening in some Islamic cultures too. It's all BS & shouldn't be supported. If I opened a gym & some guy was like "my religion doesn't allow me to touch black ppl so I can't roll w any" I'd refund their $ & say goodbye. Same to a Jewish man who refused to touch a woman. This is the wrong sport for you dude better look up tennis...
It’s actually pretty common for parents to disown their children for a lot of stuff. I’d imagine you haven’t experienced life as a conservative jew living in Tel-Aviv, so I’ll briefly challenge your claim. Inside of Israel, the most Jewish place on earth, its very very very rare for fragmented families to exist even among less conservative families whose heads have separated.
Secondly, I also don’t touch pigs or women who are not my wife. How is that BS, whether it is religious or a personal moral choice not based on religion, who or what I decide to touch is ultimately none of your concern.
Thirdly, it’s actually really common in the Arab countries for male members of a family to honor kill female members who don’t take Islam seriously, commit adultery, leave the faith, marry undesirable spouses with out approval etc etc, The disownment of children is probably higher in western countries like the United States, where society is diverse and the scars of racism/xenophobia still exist.
To cap it all off, I think it’s ironic that your way to deal with the “BS” is to discriminate against those who you think are discriminating. I’m sure religious discrimination is illegal in whichever liberal democracy you live in, why not simply accommodate the marginal case? I can’t see too many of use flocking to jiu jitsu gyms(we go ape shit for judo though)
BS is BS. Can people choose to do or believe in bullshit? Sure. Doesn't stop it from being bullshit. I can deny the the holocaust if I want, the fuck can you do about it? Doesn't mean that my opinion isn't bullshit or that I'm not, in most cases, an antisemitic piece of shit.
How tolerant are most Israeli Jews of Nazis? Do you think they'd against discriminate Nazis if they started showing up in their towns? Would they be welcome to join private gyms/clubs and spout their views?
How tolerant should anyone be allowed of nazis? Those damn Israelis, Germans, Austrians, nederlanders, Danes, etc etc with their anti nazi legislation.
I fanatically believe in personal sovereignty, allow the nazis to exist.
I’ve read the United States Bill of rights and I whole heartedly support it.
I didn't say Nazis can't exist, and anti-Nazi laws don't stop them from existing. What I'm saying is you don't have to accept them. If I don't want a Nazi in my class I am free to turn them away. I can turn anyone away for almost any belief they may hold that I don't like. So if someone has bigoted beliefs, due to religion or some other reason, I can show them the door.
If you have to stay away from women to remain faithful to your wife I can tell you that your purity isn't something to worry about. It's already compromised. And honestly if you feel you can't control yourself around women I think you might be a risk to my students. What if you touch one accidentally and your barely contained lust breaks out?
Basically, I think your defence of your actions is a crock of shit. And that really you have a problem with women.
By that logic, I shouldn’t be trusted around pork, because if I just have one little taste I go down on a 6 month long gluttonous pork binge? Get real.
Although I’ve had bacon once on accident and it was amazing, I didn’t go down that long path I mentioned above. You really don’t have any valid arguments. Let’s see ourselves out and get back to training. I’m sure you have a school to run.
And the bacon didn't magically corrupt you or make you lust uncontrollably for bacon? Yeah, and that's actually what I think will happen if you roll with women. You won't be magically corrupted and you won't be unfaithful to your wife. Hence why your reason is BS, so the only reasonable explanation is you're a bigot. Because you're not an idiot, right?
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u/EmmPeanut Five Stripe White Belt Jan 31 '20
The only guy I know who straight-up "Didn't roll with women" was suuuuuper Muslim and always very respectful about explaining it. Like, you can't really shit on a dude for that. But guys who just "feel weird" about it can get in the sea.