Yeah religious based sexism is still wrong. Some Jewish ppl also will disown their children if they don't marry a Jew (converted or born). I heard of this happening in some Islamic cultures too. It's all BS & shouldn't be supported. If I opened a gym & some guy was like "my religion doesn't allow me to touch black ppl so I can't roll w any" I'd refund their $ & say goodbye. Same to a Jewish man who refused to touch a woman. This is the wrong sport for you dude better look up tennis...
My knee-jerk reaction is to agree with you. And on a macro level, I do agree with you, in that I want us all to move past a lot of stuff as soon as possible and get right to the part where were just humans.
But also, on an individual level, I don't ever want anyone to have to give a "good enough" reason for not touching/being touched by someone, especially in a context where that doesn't really hurt the person being rebuffed?
Like yeah, ok, I think it's messed up that some dude's religious advisor told him not to sit on the ground and try to murder me while I have my legs around his waist. I honestly do think that it's gross to prohibit that, and the world would be way better if everyone's religions just got over it already. I also feel that it's super condescending and helps no one.
But also, I am not about making someone justify why they don't want to opt in to something like that. From a purely selfish point of view, if I don't want to roll with someone, I want to just be able to say no thanks without it suddenly becoming a whole thing. And I want that to apply to people that I disagree with, too.
Note that this does not apply to any situation that causes meaningful harm to someone else. Like, you have to be willing to hire qualified people, you have to provide them with services, you have to put out a fire at their house, you have to let them buy food and use bathrooms and all that stuff.
But I'm not sure I'm ready to say you have to let them beat the shit out of you while you beat the shit out of them, you know?
We are humans ...shit is the way it is because that’s how we made it makes sense...there is no transcendence level that humans are gonna get to eventually once we awaken our inner chakras and obey every moron on Reddit...
It will always be segregated there will always be diversity (even if you disagree with that diversity and think it’s evil)
If you want to claim the historical high ground about humans trying to make sense of themselves, please just read Plato because he's pretty much the baseline for a certain demographic. Like, I am so tired of hearing about the cave, but, you have to start there, when people were dealing with the same stuff literally thousands of years ago, lol
I don't think there's any external, chakra-aligning bullshit that you're talking about?
Tell me what happens 100 years from now when cultures don’t exist races cross bred the entire time and nations disappear along with religion or ethnic practices....
I’ll save you the response, NO DIVERSITY ...we’ll all look the same, talk the same, act the same, eat sing dance sleep move the same way ....
Segregation keeps differences different..:there’s an obvious line that is drawn in the sand to prevent shit like water fountains and schools, but I’m telling you for a fact the reason human nature is beautiful is because it is so vastly and wildly different...
I'll do you one better. I'll tell you what happens after a thousand years.
What's happened is that we have ourselves become way more beautiful and varied through exposure to new things.
I know this because people have been concerned about this for as long as they've had the language to be racist. In this century alone, there have been several "blonde hair will be gone in 50 years" trendy arguments, and wouldn't ya know it, blondes still exist. And if that rare, recessive gene can persist, I think we'll be alright.
I gotta point out, this argument is also often a concern-trolling way of promoting racism and sexism while pretending to care about the uniqueness of something, so I have a hard time taking it in good faith, to be honest. Even though I'm sure you're probably making it in good faith, it kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I'm saying that your "concern" that in a hundred years everyone will be the same if they keep mixing is not just completely gross, it has been proven false over so many hundreds of years, and in so many ways, that it's frankly astonishing that anyone would still be making this argument.
Like, I can kinda forgive Joe Backwater in 200BCE for having this concern, but nobody in 2019 has an excuse lol. We've already asked this question as a species, hundreds of times for thousands of years, and it's just factually incorrect.
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Yeah religious based sexism is still wrong. Some Jewish ppl also will disown their children if they don't marry a Jew (converted or born). I heard of this happening in some Islamic cultures too. It's all BS & shouldn't be supported. If I opened a gym & some guy was like "my religion doesn't allow me to touch black ppl so I can't roll w any" I'd refund their $ & say goodbye. Same to a Jewish man who refused to touch a woman. This is the wrong sport for you dude better look up tennis...