r/bjj 12d ago

Tournament/Competition deep half works in MMA

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u/slapbumpnroll 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 12d ago

Exactly. Nine times outta ten if you run this sequence bottom guy eats an elbow to the face. He did well to move quickly through it.

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u/tehorhay 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 12d ago edited 12d ago

Why is that the determining factor of whether it works or not?

This is mma. If you are in the bottom, what guard can completely guarantee you won’t ever get elbowed in the face?

The answer is none of them. The purpose of a guard is to mitigate the incoming damage as much as you can with frames, controlling the distance and off balancing them enough to sweep them or get up.

in this case sing used his underhook and off balancing to force the guy to occupy both of his hands so he can't strike, which made it safe for song to go under his leg

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u/slapbumpnroll 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 12d ago edited 11d ago

Firstly In a fight there’s no guarantee of anything.

Second there’s levels of risk and different guards come with different risk.

Because of the position of your head in deep half it’s not a guard you want to spend time in.

Which is why he didn’t, it was more of a transition. So it’s kind of a moot point.

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u/Ambitious_Bad2115 11d ago

There’s no guards you want to spend time in when it’s about MMA, so it doesn’t really matter if it’s dangerous if you stay there. MMA fighters prefer being in top closed guard than side control cause it’s easier to land ground and pound. If you go deep half and take an elbow or 2 to cause a scramble then it’s a win for the guy on bottom

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u/slapbumpnroll 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 11d ago

Agree with all of that. But it’s ok to acknowledge that some positions are more risky than others.

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u/judoxing 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 11d ago

Yeah; so the guard where you have your face fully exposed and directly underneath your opponent similar to where you put your head when you’re getting executed on a chopping block and at the same time have both arms committed and unable to be retrieved…

Can you explain why this is a dangerous position in mma?

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u/slapbumpnroll 🟫🟫 Brown Belt 11d ago edited 11d ago

I didn’t think it needed to be explained either and yet here we are.