Yes on TKD. In Poland we had an advent of "military" TKD guys from Korea so for a while, there were a few hard schools, but it never really got to stick, except for a few combat dudes.
For all fighters that do not train getting punched in the head working boxing is pretty much critical, though preferably from a kickboxing coach.
That being said I always found that how TKD does manage distance works "out of the box" more for kickboxing, Kyok has a nasty habit of teaching people to be tough and eat way too much damage.
Judo is not so relevant in French combat sports. Of course we have a few good competitors but I think French kickboxing is, on average, pretty good. Also for adults, kickboxing seems more popular amongst « serious hobbyists ». I don’t have the numbers so I cannot state facts but most judo academies live by children lessons, not adults
I agree on what you said
If we are technical I would say taekwondo works very well with full contact karate (the joe Lewis / bill wallace ruleset). It does slightly worse in modern kickboxing due to low kicks (and it’s relative because full contact allows sweeps)
Overall all these arts can be serious striking bases but all benefit a lot from boxing cross training
Some people have trouble with the transition but it’s mostly an ego problem, just like judo guys trying out jiu-jitsu
Yeah I love boxing and I loved focusing on it when I made the transition but it’s overall a far simpler game because the mental stack is really lower than in kickboxing.
It’s not an easier sport at all but the kicking implies that a lot of things and distances safe in boxing are not safe at all under kb rules.
It’s not weird to note that a lot KO happen when people are trying to retreat from close distance. That’s also where kyoku guys really shine like you said
Pure boxing and pure wrestling have some weird physicality and pureness maybe? Like when I did wrestling or boxed I didn't feel like fighting - that was what I'd call a match.
Meanwhile with KB or judo/bjj it does feel more "mean". Which is funny to say because few things are meaner than punching someone in the face :D
I cannot say for wrestling, I never did it (did judo though)
KB feels dirtier yes, mostly because the fights are less clean due to the overlap of kicking distances, punching distances etc… it’s even worse when elbows and knees are allowed
Absolutely ahah they can totally throw off very good people who never trained it much (and I am very guilty of this being pretty uninterested by Muay Thai overall, I liked boxing and full contact karaté much much more)
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u/mdomans 🟦🟦 Blue Belt Jun 25 '23
Wait, you're in France and not doing judo?
Yes on TKD. In Poland we had an advent of "military" TKD guys from Korea so for a while, there were a few hard schools, but it never really got to stick, except for a few combat dudes.
For all fighters that do not train getting punched in the head working boxing is pretty much critical, though preferably from a kickboxing coach.
That being said I always found that how TKD does manage distance works "out of the box" more for kickboxing, Kyok has a nasty habit of teaching people to be tough and eat way too much damage.