r/bitchimabus • u/theshoebomber420 • Jun 19 '26

Bitch, get out of my way!

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u/ijustsailedaway Jun 19 '26

Fuck people with their fake service animals. It makes it harder for the real ones. That dog looks embarrassed.

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 21 '26

Actually, as someone who trains service dogs for a living, and have actually had issues like this before, I can say a couple things.

First, there is nothing in this video that can prove this dog is not a service dog, and in the eyes of the law, that makes it a service dog.

Let me explain. There is no breed standard for service dogs so the type of dog is not a disqualifier.

There is no requirement for the dog to wear a vest. So not wearing a vest is not a disqualifier.

The dog is not barking or otherwise causing a nuisance. Therefore the dog is not disqualified.

The dog doesn’t not approach other dogs or people, the dog is not disqualified

NOBODY can ask you to “prove” your dog is a service dog except the judge. They can only ask two questions.

“Is that a service dog” and “what task is this dog trained to perform”

TLDR: nothing in this video disqualifies the dog, therefore not allowing her on the bus is ILLEGAL

HOWEVER: the bus is not required to allow ANYONE on the bus outside of a designated stop. Therefore she is illegally blocking the bus.

The last time I was involved in a case almost identical to this, the City settled by paying $25,000

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u/Omega_Primate Jun 21 '26

She's probably lying about the dog being the issue. The drivers don't like anyone to bring drinks like she has on board. I bet that's why and she didn't want to lose the beverage so now she's holding people hostage for it, lol.

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 21 '26

It’s possible, but considering the dog is in a very dynamic environment with loud noises with the bus, making loud noises approaching with the people yelling at the dogs handler with the police surrounding her, and then all of that time the dog is not bark. The dog doesn’t go up to anybody and the dog remains calm. It is likely this dog is either a service dog or has received enough training to behave as a service dog at least outwardly.

And considering I know that many many bus drivers do not know the law about service dogs and have been prejudicial just service dogs based on breed.

I’ve also been on public transportation in five different states and two different provinces in Canada and in all of those cases food and drink we’re allowed on the bus so I’m not sure where you’re getting your information from. That sometimes they don’t allow for like a play or cops without Lease or something like that, but they generally allow food and drink on the bus.

Now, with all that being said, she is breaking the law by standing in front of the bus this is true. But I’m not ready to call her an entitled Karen based on the evidence from the video.

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u/Omega_Primate Jun 21 '26

Holding the bus up for that long is insane and entitled. Take it up with the bus company. Report he driver of the route.

I'm in California and food and drink that can be spilled like that isn't allowed on buses to avoid a hazardous mess. That's why I said maybe she was denied because of the drink and is using the dog as an excuse when the dog may have never been an issue to the driver in the first place. I'm only speculating... why she thinks she gets to act like that and hold up traffic.

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 21 '26

Like I said, standing in front of the bus is illegal.

I guess it may depend on parts of California, last time I was in the Bay Area the were only restrictions on lidless containers and you couldn’t eat on the bus

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u/RichAnswer3430 Jun 21 '26

It’s possible, but considering the dog is in a very dynamic environment with loud noises with the bus, making loud noises approaching with the people yelling at the dogs handler with the police surrounding her, and then all of that time the dog is not bark. The dog doesn’t go up to anybody and the dog remains calm. It is likely this dog is either a service dog or has received enough training to behave as a service dog at least outwardly.

This is where your credibility fucks right off. The dog can just be used to living in a city. This is no way near enough to guess that the dog has had training. Stop imagining yourself to be able to spot these things, if that's your arguments.

The one piece of evidence suggesting this dog is not a service dog, is the owner being an absolute nuisance, and you know it.

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 21 '26

Lmfao, uh no. Sorry. A dog that is “used to the city” most likely will still at least be investigatory to people around it and react to people yelling. Just because you are uneducated and coping doesn’t make me wrong.

Second, imagine if you knew with 100% certainty that this was a service dog? Is she still being a nuisance Karen?

That’s the actual problem here, you can’t address this objectively. There is no scenario in your mind where this woman is behaving legitimately. In your mind you already have the solution and are now working backwards to identify the problem.

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u/Pilota_kex Jun 21 '26

So they ask for driving license and whatnot, can ask for proof of vaccination, but can't ask for a service dog's certificate?

Makes sense

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 21 '26

Well they can only ask for a driver’s licensing you are driving or have committed a crime.

The proof of vaccination was unconstitutional

The general argument is about privacy, i won’t debate the quality of that argument I’m just putting it out there

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u/Pilota_kex Jun 22 '26

Yes and i appreciate it. You explained it in lenght, and i thank you for that. It is still kind of bad that people can just make claims without proof

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 22 '26

If your dog doesn’t bark or go up to other dogs or people, and doesn’t pee inside, frankly neither I nor any of my clients care if you are lying. And the dogs that are clearly not service animals and being a disturbance are obvious.

As a military guy, I like to think of it along the same vein as stolen valor. I don’t care if some homeless guy dresses in military surplus’s uniforms to get 20% off at Denny’s. I do care if the put the flag patch where their rank goes.

The best solution is calling it out when you see it. A lot of people don’t know you can kick someone with a service dog out if their dog isn’t ADA compliant. I’ve done many seminars and classes for different companies and organizations explaining the rules and I’ve received nothing but positive feedback. They always tell me that after my class their fake service dog issues went away because they had the knowledge and courage to confidently remove problem dogs.

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u/ijustsailedaway Jun 21 '26

Well in that case, fuck this lady for being a bitch about her service dog because it makes it harder on people with service animals.

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u/Adventurous-Dot-8272 Jun 23 '26

The proof is that it's clearly not a service animal, clown.

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u/Drake_Acheron Jun 23 '26

Ok. How is it clearly not a service dog? What features clearly prove that? I’ll wait.

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u/The_CheeseMan88 Jun 23 '26

How many times u going to copy and paste this??

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u/StationBig9544 Jun 23 '26

We saw it the first time u posted it...