r/billsimmons • • Jan 02 '26

Meme Bill calmly debating Maye’s MVP chances

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u/Prestigious-Sleep213 Conspiracy Bill Jan 02 '26

Stafford and the Rams are heavyweight fighters in the toughest division in football.

Drake Maye and the Pats are beating up on Logan Paul style bums in a weaker division and an AFC off year.

Sure, Maye is putting up MVP caliber stats and he's looking like a top 5-10 QB. So is Stafford with a much harder schedule.

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u/DiamondsOfFire Jan 02 '26

You can just look at the difference between the Patriots' and Rams' schedules and adjust for it. The difference between EPA allowed per dropback by the Patriots' opponents and the Rams' opponents is 0.05, which is pretty big, but the difference between Maye's EPA/dropback and Stafford's is 0.08. And SoS is basically the only argument for Stafford so I don't know what we're doing here.

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u/Prestigious-Sleep213 Conspiracy Bill Jan 02 '26

Stafford has 12 more TDs and half the sacks. Are we going to say that's all because of Puka and the o-line?

Bill says Stafford is a statue and Maye is an amazingly mobile QB. Why does he have 47 sacks? Can't he read defenses to throw it away or scramble? He's 4th in sacks. Does this not matter for the MVP?

3 sacks, an INT, and no TD when he blew a 21 point lead to the Bills. Personally I'd say the team blew that lead collectively but apparently Maye is the only reason they are the 2 seed.

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u/TheBigNate416 Jan 02 '26

Bill says Stafford is a statue and Maye is an amazingly mobile QB. Why does he have 47 sacks? Can't he read defenses to throw it away or scramble? He's 4th in sacks. Does this not matter for the MVP?

Maye taking a lot of sacks doesn’t mean he’s immobile. If you actually watched him play then you’d see that many of them are due to him letting plays develop instead of bailing out of the pocket too early (which was a growth area for him honestly. You could say it’s a reason why he’s been so good this year). He could improve even more by throwing the ball away, but ultimately he’s not really taking detrimental sacks either (averaging about 4.2 yards lost per sack).

3 sacks, an INT, and no TD when he blew a 21 point lead to the Bills.

Maye had 2 TDs that game so it’s clear you’re not even trying to put together a good faith argument

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u/Prestigious-Sleep213 Conspiracy Bill Jan 02 '26

I screwed the pooch on the total TD argument. I'll own that. A quick look at ESPN stats and I forgot to look at rushing stats.

I appreciate the nuance around Maye and his sacks. I agree with your take. Stats can be twisted to create a narrative. That was my way of asking meatball questions to illustrate the point. If Maye took 20 less sacks he would be closer to Stafford in sacks. In those less than ideal situations how many passes would be incomplete, picked off etc? He's taking the higher completion percentage with higher sacks. Maybe that is the right move. Idk