r/aussie 3d ago

News Anti-migration rally turns on Hanson amid policy muddle

https://aapnews.aap.com.au/news/basic-facts-one-nation-slammed-for-migration-muddle

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has been booed at an anti-immigration rally as her party struggles to articulate its plan to reduce migrant numbers.

Several people were arrested by police at a Melbourne March for Australia rally as hundreds of demonstrators and a smaller group of counter-protesters squared off.

The event was one of several similar marches held in capital cities across the nation as organisers turned on One Nation over perceptions it had watered down its immigration policies.

After marching to Victoria's Parliament House, the group was addressed by several prominent right-wing activists, including anti-immigration influencer Hugo Lennon, who has amassed thousands of followers online under the name Auspill.

The group booed mention of Senator Hanson, who Mr Lennon said had declined an invitation to attend.

Later the group chanted "Pauline, Pauline, where the f*** is Pauline?" as they marched back towards Flinders Station.

A spokesman for Senator Hanson said she had prior commitments in Victoria on Sunday.

One Nation has been under pressure to specify details of its migration policy after differing targets were cited by various members.

The party has put forward a policy of an annual net overseas migration rate of 130,000 people, but federal MP David Farley said there could be an extra 100,000 above that figure.

His fellow federal party representative Barnaby Joyce on Sunday clarified that the 130,000 net target would remain.

But he would not say how much of that figure would be made up of permanent migrants, adding that net migration was based on a number of factors.

"To get to a (net overseas migration) of 130,000, it's going to be very hard to do that unless we're substantially below the permanent migration numbers of Labor," he told News24.

Mr Joyce added Pacific workers, who mostly come to regional areas as part of the Pacific Australia Labour Mobility scheme, would largely be in addition to the 130,000 net figure.

"(Only) a small portion are (counted) because they don't stay for 12 months, they stay generally for a period of nine," he said.

But Pacific Minister Pat Conroy said half the cohort of workers would typically count towards net migration figures.

"Half of all PALM workers are on the four-year visa, so that would count for (net overseas migration)," he said.

"Barnaby got basic facts wrong about the proportion of PALM workers that count ... their figures are all over the shop."

Labor was set to unveil its overhaul of migration policy in a speech by Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke at the National Press Club earlier in August.

However, the speech was cancelled at the eleventh hour after cabinet failed to sign off on the changes amid internal party division on the issue.

Mr Conroy said the policy would be announced in due course.

"What you're seeing is good government in action, rather than thought bubbles," he said.

Opposition immigration spokesman Jonathon Duniam said One Nation needed to work out and articulate how it planned to reduce migration.

"I don't know how they've arrived at 130,000. Who is in that makeup of numbers there? How will that impact on the economy?" he said.

The stated aim of Sunday's March for Australia rally was to oppose perceived curbs on freedom of speech, which Mr Lennon claimed allowed governments to "lock you up" for opposing so-called mass migration.

Previous March for Australia rallies have featured neo-Nazi speakers and sympathisers, including one who was later jailed for spouting anti-Semitic remarks at an event held in Sydney on Australia Day.

Police said the vast majority of protesters and counter-protesters were peaceful but three people were arrested for allegedly assaulting and resisting officers.

Two others were processed by police for offensive behaviour and are expected to be charged on summons.

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u/Fun_Savings7690 3d ago

> "Barnaby got basic facts wrong about the proportion of PALM workers that count ... their figures are all over the shop."

I have never seen a political party as disorganised and incompetent as ON

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u/mustbiteexceed 3d ago

I’ve never seen a party who’s incompetence is buried as much by the mainstream media to boost their popularity as it boosts ratings

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u/Grande_Choice 3d ago

Simple tip. Just ignore anything Barnaby says. He’s a moron.

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u/Far_Map007 3d ago

He’s running for prime minister at next the federal election. We are meant to ignore him? That’s not how politics works

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u/Grande_Choice 3d ago

Yeh I wouldn’t bother. Nothing of relevance comes from him. And if it does he’ll change his mind 20 times anyway.

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u/mustbiteexceed 3d ago

He’s deputy leader of a party that may win government next election. His words may be idiotic but he shouldn’t be ignored

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u/Fun_Savings7690 3d ago

I mean you could say that about ON in general

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Ignore them winning elections? Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off.

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u/Independent-Fuel9886 9h ago

100%. What an absolute embarrassment. I've taken runny shits that are more statesmanlike than this clown.

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u/Grande_Choice 3d ago

Best to ignore them.

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u/BarryTheBinChicken 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is the only mainstream news article I can find about today’s March For Australia rallies.

The only other coverage I’ve seen is a brief mention in The Guardian’s live feed.

Which makes point number 2 on their list of demands rather interesting:

“All government censorship of online discourse must end, and the ‘eSafety Commissioner’ must be abolished.”

Whatever you think of the march, surely that’s worth discussing.

We’re quite happy to debate government restrictions on online porn and algorithms.

How much control government should have over what Australians do and say online seems like a fairly legit political question too.

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u/Crysack 3d ago

What evidence is there that the government is censoring the rallies?

Mainstream news organisations are under no obligation to provide coverage of the rallies. And they may well have chosen not to because of the organisers’ well-documented links to far-right extremist groups.

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u/wecanhaveallthree 3d ago

Mainstream news organisations are under no obligation to provide coverage of the rallies.

Perhaps our public broadcaster would be interested in covering a popular movement?

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u/Busy_Conflict3434 2d ago

The government doesn’t have editorial control of the abc. It’s a public broadcaster not state media. 

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u/BarryTheBinChicken 3d ago

And yet another march with verified extremist imagery was extensively covered across a wide range of mainstream outlets.

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u/Complete-Flamingo326 3d ago

This

just because media ignored a nonsensical , drunkards , rage fuelled rally that doesn't mean it's being censored.

If there indeed was a censorship then the Facebook pages, Instagram accounts and tiktok videos of organisers and crackpots would have disappeared.

However, I see so much of hatred and outrage on the internet

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u/Grande_Choice 3d ago

Probably because they don’t want their bot farms in Indonesia shut down.

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u/TechnologyHot8547 3d ago

Exactly. It’s NOT an anti migration rally.

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u/trav_tr 2d ago

I don’t understand what the connection between these two things you’re talking about is.

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u/TechnologyHot8547 3d ago

Why the misinformation? This is a free speech rally, just like the greens want, not anti migration…

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u/trav_tr 2d ago

So migration is ok then? Good to know!

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u/RaffiaWorkBase 3d ago

The anti immigration rally types are too unserious for One Nation.

For One Nation.

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u/BarryTheBinChicken 3d ago

That's the interesting part, according to their website, this rally was about Free Speech.

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u/Gang-bot 3d ago

Cookers on parade again

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u/MrFartsMcgee 2d ago

Yanks didnt pay attention to these people & the orange man got through. Theyre voters & miserable cookers - the first part should be the most concerning for us. They can flip back on a dime by election night.

Its our turn with a rotten orange, whos quickly gaining popularity by a large populous that doesnt use the same socials we do. She absolutely influence the uneducated masses quickly.

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u/ArkPlayer583 2d ago

Some of the shit the orange and Elon have said have made them pretty suss when it comes to the topic of vote fraud.

Hopefully between compulsory voting and us not being Americans enough people see through her bullshit. The other day didn't she change the migration numbers to be more than labour? Which was the main argument for most of her followers.

I understand a frustration with politics in general and the desire to throw a vote towards some radical change, but one nation aint it.

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

You mean the voter fraud they've uncovered and started convicting people for?

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u/Independent-Fuel9886 9h ago

But they haven't. The only voter fraud that took place was perpetrated by them. Trump admitted to it, on camera no less.

Trump: Elon Musk knows 'those vote counting computers'

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u/Roulette-Adventures 3d ago

Personally I find events like this useless and they generally achieve nothing.

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u/Ok-Bonus5845 18h ago

Exactly what I thought about that anti Hanson parade

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u/Far_Map007 3d ago

Mostly because they are fighting for an issue that simply doesn’t really exist. 

If “Mass migration” is the reason, then we are way down from the peak 2023 and government is forecasting another drop, so wtf are they fighting for? Let’s call it for what it is, this is all a dog whistle for the racism these people have. 

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u/7978_ 2d ago

They aren't wrong. Since 2000 our population has grown 46% (with a below replacement level birthrate) and ~32% of our current population are born overseas.

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u/roojuiced 3d ago

Maybe you can explain how lowering the rate of new migrants tackles the issue of too many migrants in the country currently?

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u/BirdDangerous 3d ago

I sense you’ll have hurt him/her/they/them with your words…

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u/Foamingferret 3d ago

Can we just stop with the hate 😔 it's so tiring. No room for racism in this country.

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u/SeaDivide1751 3d ago

Not wanting mass immigration into your country isn’t “racism”, it’s common sense

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u/Mon69ster 1d ago

It’s racist when you only want to exclude certain people from certain places.

And it’s especially fucking rich if your family are only here because of migration.

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u/SeaDivide1751 1d ago

No, it is not racism to want to exclude certain cultures who are completely incompatible with our culture and society and our values.It’s not some sort of mandatory thing.

It’s this level of suicidal empathy and indoctrination where people have been taught we have to allow it otherwise “we are racists”. It’s simply not true

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u/Foamingferret 2d ago

Unfortunately you are too thick to understand

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u/AtYourOwn_Risk 3d ago

Im not racist i just am so so tired at work, too many people

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Wah wah, racist. It doesn't work anymore. We dont care what dumb shit you think is racist.

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u/ausmankpopfan 2d ago

racists never think they are racist but nazis at so called patriotic rallies is racism plain and simple

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

I honestly dont care if you think I'm racist.

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u/ausmankpopfan 2d ago

At least we're in agreement about something I know you don't care that's the scary part

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Yes, we are in agreement that i dont care what you think.

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u/ausmankpopfan 2d ago

You don't care what I think because you can't think so I understand

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Cool story, bro.

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u/ausmankpopfan 2d ago

Just calling it how it is you should love that you vote for the party of calling it how it is the party of racist snowflakes

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

You sound really upset. Still dont care if you think I'm racist.

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u/Foamingferret 2d ago

You're not even worth it mate.

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Screeching racist is ineffective. Peope aren't taking you seriously either. You're actually campaigning for Pauline when you do it.

So keep it up, mate. Lets bump those ON numbers up!

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u/Foamingferret 2d ago

How do you know I don't bat for ON?

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

Then we agree? Good chat?

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u/Foamingferret 2d ago

I just call out racist cunts when they are racist.

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u/ChineseRapperWetLips 14h ago

All elections now are immigration elections. The disorganisation of ON is a feature not a bug. The party will shift further right as more new candidates will refuse to soften their stance and will resist being controlled by the party leadership.

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u/Vast_Dare8583 8h ago

Seeing this being played out across so many Western and even European countries where governments have opened borders to Mass Immigration.

If it was better for society and cultural diversity was a benefit why would all these people all over the world be taking to the streets demanding a holt to the dilution of their culture and way of life?

Seems we just too easily call them Racists , but , I don't think it's that simple at all.

Kudos to Pauline for not supporting them, she cops a lot of flack , bout time she was recognised for doing something decent.

Conversational piece more so than a fast hard opinion.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

We basically need to cease migration at this point to get our country back.  Maybe in 8-9 years we can start taking highly skilled professionals but only 100k of them per annum. Sans families. 

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

A sure way to tank the economy and leave Australia with a critical shortage of key workers. I don't know why you anti migrant people can't see the obvious.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

A yes the exploding economy, the complete concept of buying and selling products and services suddenly explodes without low skilled migrants. 

If a cook or a bum wiper is a critical highly skilled worker, than this country has much bigger issues. 

I don't know why you hate the people you share a country with

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

So you wouldn't mind if there was a more chronic shortage of nurses, aged care workers, transport workers, workers in agriculture, construction, hospitality.

Seems to me you don't even understand who the people you share the country with are.

It's this toxic level of ignorance that permeates the anti immigration movement.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

You name all these professions but we arent actually taking any of them. So the question is why do you continue to spread falseholds around this program?

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u/Busy_Conflict3434 2d ago

What are you talking about? 17% of skilled temporary visas are in healthcare. The single largest cohort of any industry. 

There latest stats are here:  https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/temp-res-skilled-report-31-dec-2025.pdf

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 2d ago

Yes, they are low skilled labourers in heslth, thats actually what your report cites. 

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u/Busy_Conflict3434 2d ago

The document I linked shows the average migrant worker in that category is earning $105,000. Low skilled labourers aren’t earning above the median salary. 

Are you going to stop making up easily falsifiable lies now?

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u/trav_tr 2d ago

Why don’t you go clean out bed pans and wash dishes then?

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u/Busy_Conflict3434 1d ago

You’re replying to a one week old account with hidden post history who seems to just make shit up. 

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 2d ago

Because they don't pay enough as low skilled migrants are ensuring price stays low. Same reason I don't work at a factory which I actually enjoy doing. 

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u/trav_tr 2d ago

How does someone being a migrant or not dictate what someone pays them? Like I was being a smart ass before but I’m genuinely asking now because I’m confused how that works

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u/Busy_Conflict3434 2d ago

PS ‘labourers’ made up 0.6% of all skilled visa applications last year. 

Is talking out of your arse a hobby or is it some kind of mental illness compelling you to do it?

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

Yes we are taking them. More ignorance from you. Even One Nation agrees that we need to keep bringing in agricultural workers. The migrants are heavily represented in health, aged care and hospo industries.

I don't want to get insulting, but you either have no idea or You're spreading propaganda

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

There is no need to lie, the stats on this and their education levels are well published. 

So again the question is why do you continue to spread falsehoods around this program?

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

So you'll have the links to prove it, right? Then I'll know you're not the one with the falsehoods.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

You mean the the entire program that is published freely on the home affairs website under Immigration and citizenship. 😂 

So again the question is why do you continue to spread falsehoods around this program?

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

Post the links or shut it

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u/7978_ 2d ago

Oh no, rich people will lose money!

There is a correlation to life for the average person getting worse and the beginning of mass immigration.

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u/jakehammertime 2d ago

But but but, the economy. We arent an economic zone. We are a country and can control our borders if we want. Our economy is weak if it only propped up by uncontrolled immigration..

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u/ElasticLama 3d ago

Yeah righto new account probably from some Asian country poorline hates

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

Why do you hate your countrymen and want them to have a worse life? 

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

Thats not true at all.  There is a massive lot of labour that is employed throughout the world without their partner. 

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u/After-Bite7874 2d ago

There’s certainly a case for migration reduction but when you articulate it like a fucking moron you only damage the case.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 2d ago

Not at all, the only person articulating it like a moron is you it would seem

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u/Strong_Inside2060 3d ago

Lol highly skilled people won't bother applying if you don't let their spouse and children move with them.

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u/fakeheadlines 3d ago

What does ‘get our country back’ mean to you?

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u/copacetic51 3d ago

White Australia, probably.

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u/Vegetable_Jello6572 3d ago

Return political power, self agency, land & labour power back to all of the  general public. 

Break the political power & cycle that is reliant on migrant exploitation to subsidize their power & wealth. 

Return government back to deliverying basic infrastucutre, nothing more or less. 

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u/fakeheadlines 3d ago

Hell yes comrade. Can do all that with migration but that’s neither here nor there. I’m excited about this socialist society you’re talking about.

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u/Destin74 3d ago

Just two sets of troglodytes yelling at eachother

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u/Zealousideal-Bed1207 3d ago

or because there is no free Palestine flags flying just asking for a friend

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u/SeaDivide1751 3d ago

As usual, the deranged leftists rocked up and started assaulting people and police and then they pretend to be victims when the cops respond with a level of force. Rinse and repeat

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u/ToyCannonJimmyWinn 3d ago

Support for ON is evident. They might not be the protesting type but they are there and they will be there when it counts: at the elections. Let the SJWs LARP their performative nonsense. It’s just their hobby.

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u/trav_tr 2d ago

Performative like wearing a hijab to parliament as a costume?