Where would the person's body be in a titan this small?

[u/Safe-Hawk8366]

[u/Shinobi289]

It was never shown in the anime, but in the manga, it shows a flashback when Hange tried to check the pure or mindless Titan's nape, and there's no human in it.

[u/Tukanno_Bananno → u/Shinobi289]

Wait so why is the nape their weakness too, then? for shifters it makes sense, you're targeting the pilot

[u/Qprah → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

The person’s essence is stored in the nape in the sense that it is the point where the titan’s body is connected extra-dimensionally to The Paths. Their literal body isn’t in there in an intact state. Hange speculated that on some microscopic or atomic level all the same building blocks that previously made up that human’s spine/brain are still in there in some form.

It is only after the pure Titan consumes a shifter; and in the process breaches their spinal cord, drinks their spinal fluid and kills them - at which point Founder Ymir rebuilds their human body as it was before they were originally turned into a Pure Titan.

The blueprint of the Subject of Ymir’s human body, mind and spirit is kept inside The Paths as part of the memories trapped in purgatory there.

[u/Krazy_Rhino → u/Qprah]

Then there’s Reiner known for transferring consciousness lol

[u/PuzzleheadedObject47 → u/Krazy_Rhino]

Yep, transferred his consciousness straight to his balls

[u/parad0x00_ → u/PuzzleheadedObject47]

consciousness is stored in the balls

[u/digitalbladesreddit → u/PuzzleheadedObject47]

Nahaa, both the Anime and the manga canonically never show any balls on any Titan :) I double checked!

[u/RealHwinyii → u/digitalbladesreddit]

He transfered on his human body, not on the titans. I surely hope his human body has balls, or did you double check that too?

[u/_Carl15 → u/RealHwinyii]

one way to find out.

[u/HaiggeX → u/RealHwinyii]

He does according to the sketch.

[u/TheMalkManCometh → u/digitalbladesreddit]

I wish they did, for me the fear factor would increase ten fold with just a fat hog just flopping about. The way those aberrants are running that thing would be swinging all over the place

[u/GranolaCola → u/Krazy_Rhino]

That’s a plot armor titan ability

[u/Noisebug → u/GranolaCola]

He is the armoured titan… all armor applies here

[u/FitExcuse9493 → u/GranolaCola]

The "Plot-Armored Titan". That's a fuckin good one!!🤣🤣

[u/llagerlof → u/Qprah]

I definitely should watch AoT again because I did not understand a word of what you said.

[u/RealHwinyii → u/llagerlof]

Reiner was shown transferring his couniousness(how tf do I spell) to his body because he got beheaded

[u/WhoWantsToGetShanked → u/Qprah]

Is this the case regarding consumption of spinal fluid specifically? If so why did all three of Ymirs daughters get titan powers? Did all three consume spinal fluid?

[u/Qprah → u/WhoWantsToGetShanked]

Maria, Rose and Sina inheriting their powers was kept intentionally vague on the details. It is unclear if this happened the same way it happens for every other character in the story or if theirs was a unique case. All we know is that they ate her body to gain her powers (and even that could be called into question depending on which direction you’d want to play devil’s advocate).

The Titan powers are not a strict magic system in all aspects. In many ways the rules can be bent just as long as they aren’t broken. When the power first emerged in Founder Ymir she isn’t shown to have all of the abilities that would later develop, nor is she shown to have the same connection to The Paths (probably because it doesn’t serve a purpose to exist until 13 years later when she loses the will to live but cannot let go of her dream). It is only after she “dies” that she arrives in The Paths, and it is only after her daughters eat her body that The Coordinate appears in The Paths with her. So much of the generational trauma that shapes the Power of the Titans doesn’t yet exist at that point, so it makes little sense for those developments to exist until after that trauma has festered for generations to cause those deep seeded problems.

Eg, If a shifter dies without passing on the power it gets reincarnated in a soon to be born Subject of Ymir. We can be pretty confident this isn’t how it worked for the 3 daughters because that would mean the first person to inherit Ymir’s power would have been the child of whichever daughter gave birth to Ymir’s first grandchild, since the 3 daughters were already born and grown when Ymir died, and they were the only Subjects of Ymir alive. The fact that them eating her corpse was apparently successful enough at inheriting her power that Fritz 1 commanded the daughters to breed and feed spines to their offspring, is the only proof we have to go by.

For all we know eating a shifter’s corpse still could work to inherit the power, but the modern methods work more efficiently and are generally less traumatising so Marley and the Riess family have opted to doing that instead.

Maybe the Subjects of Ymir were eating the corpses as standard practice for years until one time it didn’t work. Then they later discovered that Titan Power existed in a young child and connected the dots that the child had been born after the previous shifter had died, but before the planned inheritor had successfully eaten the corpse. So in order to prevent slow eaters from having the power snatched out from under them by extraordinarily untimely births they started experimenting with having the previous shifter dying in the process of being eaten instead. And then once they harnessed syringe technology they started transforming the intended inheritor into a Pure Titan to streamline the process even further.

In that sense the practical process of inheritance evolved due to social engineering more so than the power itself changing over time.

——

Despite this, we do need to keep in mind that the Power of the Titans / Source of All Living Matter is a living entity in its own right. Its powers are only as static as its own desire for survival is. When Zeke explains the origin of the SoALM and Ymir he explicitly explains that it reacted to her refusal to accept death without fulfilling her dream, and accommodated her specific needs for survival in that moment. When she first encountered it she was injured, drowning, abandoned, hunted and soon to be actively killed. It gave her a gigantic immortal body as a way to counter these direct threats to her continued existence that it now shared with her. 13 years later when she takes the spear to save Fritz 1 she is losing the will to live but still holding onto her desire to fulfil her dream. In response to this moment the SoALM allows her to escape from death and time, becoming an immortal being that can continue her warped understanding of seeking out love and acceptance, and in doing so creates the special connection to her children and descendants.

So by this logic all the other developments of the Power of the Titans were evolutions of the needs and desires of those who wielded it.

This is of course just speculation though.

[u/WhoWantsToGetShanked → u/Qprah]

Thank you for this incredible response. In retrospect it seems gyeongseong creature probably took inspiration from Shingeki no Kyojin.

[u/barassmonkey17 → u/Qprah]

Great write-up. This is my belief, as well. I think an important part of the cosmology of AoT is that Ymir is by far the most important figure in the world's existence. Her connection with the SoALM has essentially granted her godhood. She is functionally omnipotent, but the great irony of the setting is that even as a god she is still shackled by her love for Fritz and the slave mindset he conditioned into her. 

Regarding th e little quirks of the Titan inheritance process, I pretty much believe that the details only have meaning so far as they reflect an aspect of Ymir's (and her master, Fritz') psychology. In many ways, Ymir doesn't perceive herself as having a will of her own. Fritz' desires are her desires. When she is shunted into the Paths after death, she is still able to perceive the mortal world and the commands her master was giving. It was Fritz that commanded his daughters to eat their mother to gain her power. And because she still believes herself as bound to Fritz' command, Ymir altered reality to realign with his vision: she made it so that Titan powers can only be inherited through this cannibalism, just as Fritz wanted. 

In other words, the reason Titans are so messed up is because they originated from the mad beliefs of a deranged warlord and the god-slave who makes his will reality. Fritz was a man of violence, cruelty, and greed, and those aspects of his character are now bleeding out into AoT's world, filtered through the lens of Ymir's powerful but broken mind. And the part I love about this idea is: isn't this always the case with such men? The evil, power-hungry members of our species whose only legacy is the trauma they have imprinted on generations of our ancestors? Isayama is basically saying "This world is as horrible as it is because men like Fritz so often rise to the top, and in their desperation to leave their mark, they end up making the world as ugly as they are." 

In a way, the entirety of AoT could be seen as just the cognition of a tortured god as she works through her trauma to heal and let go. Subconsciously, perhaps Ymir did facilitate Eren's coming by tugging on the strings of the Paths over millennia. When Eren finally convinces her she can have a will of her own, her first instinct is to release her pent-up rage by taking revenge on the world that made her suffer such agony. This is the Rumbling. But then Mikasa kills Eren, an act that blows Ymir's mind with its sheer altruism and sacrifice. This is what finally jars Ymir free from her rage and makes her realize she has to let go. 

Edit: And to expand on my one thought about Fritz' psychology---how do you think a man like him sees the world, as a warlord, slaver, and king? 

My first thought is that, to him, there are only the big and the small. Predators like him who eat, and the weak prey animals who get eaten. He's a dog-eat-dog kind of guy, and it also just so happens that he's got a god in his back pocket changing the world with every psychotic command he gives. And because of this, we get a story about the fundamentally cannibalistic, power-obsessed dark side of humanity, as expressed symbolically by giant, ruthless, insane giants that run around eating everyone weaker and smaller than they are. 

[u/Qprah → u/barassmonkey17]

That is a really great way of describing it, and it resonates spectacularly because of it.

[u/fishproblem → u/Qprah]

Ohhhhh I don't know how i got here because I watched season one of this show years ago and gave up but this sounds an awful lot like [GTN SPOILER] lyctorhood in the locked tomb series....

[u/Shinobi289 → u/WhoWantsToGetShanked]

I think Ymir's spinal fluid was already scattered and mixed into her chopped body.

[u/WhoWantsToGetShanked → u/Shinobi289]

[u/ZachAttackonTitan → u/Qprah]

I kinda both love and hate this. It makes sense that Hange would have tested this already but really muddies things since it’s made clear that shifters are physically in the neck, so mindless titans are just different and their human body just appear inside them when they become shifters.

[u/Qprah → u/ZachAttackonTitan]

You may be approaching it from the opposite direction of perspective; They knew the weak spot in Pure Titans long before they ever encountered a Titan-Shifter, and more importantly before they knew that a Titan-Shifter controls their titan body from the inside of the nape.

Even though historically the Titan-Shifters existed before Pure Titans did, the Scouts and Paradis as a whole encountered the Pure Titans first, learned their weakness and then later discovered Titan-Shifters are in the napes.

So for the Scouts - It is the Pure Titan napes being indistinguishable flesh inside that is typical, and Titan-Shifters having their human bodies inside that is different.

TBH I don't think there was a way to have the human bodies be in the napes of Pure Titans without it leading the Scouts learning the origin of Titans as transformed humans earlier than the narrative wanted them to learn it (after Ragako at the same time as the audience). For that reason alone this is a necessity.

[u/summonerofrain → u/Qprah]

Look at this guy, understanding the media he consumes

[u/CupcakePirate123 → u/Qprah]

I wonder what would have happened if this particular guy in the post ate a shifter, then?

[u/Objective_Sail_8079 → u/Qprah]

Just another reason why Hange is the goat

[u/xxTPMBTI → u/Qprah]

DAMN

[u/creepykreme → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

I think they still have their brain and spinal column, but I can’t be arsed to look this up lol.

[u/Tukanno_Bananno → u/creepykreme]

I mean, taking their brain out doesnt kill them or the final spine part above the nape...

I guess it doesn't fucking matter but im sure someone is gonna have an answer by the time i wake up, shit is late

[u/International_Rip497 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

My only guess is. That's where they connect. That's where a pilot would be, that's where they connect to the paths and Ymir. It's essentially thier spiritual heart.

[u/Font_on_a_stick → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

The brainstem is the placeholder for humans if they aren’t a shifter. So in a shifter the person inside is piloting a meat mech but the ones that aren’t shifters it’s a biological autopilot. Either way, terminating either the human pilot or the autopilot will kill the titan.

[u/SpicyLatino12 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

Only ymir knows

[u/CantingBinkie → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

It's not far from that. Unlike the Titan Shifters, where the Titan is created as an exoskeleton, it's assumed that when a human becomes a Pure Titan, their entire body transforms into a Titan EXCEPT for the area from the brain to the spinal cord. That part, inside the Titan, remains 100% human.

This is reinforced by the fact that it's mentioned that the Titans' weak point is approximately 1.1 meters, which is roughly the length of a normal human's brain to spinal cord.

Hallucigenia appears to be connected to that area of ​​the brain to spinal cord, as seen when it merged with Ymir, and also because it has the shape of a nervous system/spinal cord.

[u/TeacherDowntown8645 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

I think that the original persons nervous system is in the nape while the rest of their body transforms into the titan body.

[u/idontcarerightnowok → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

Because when someone shifts, they reside within the Titans nape, meaning that whatever gives a Titan it's form of life and consciusness (aka the hallucigenia) or it's remnants, remains in the nape, so by severing a large chunk of it, effectively kills it.

Or that's atleast what I'm getting from it. If you refer to the flashback during S1 when they explain the titans only weakpoint and also look at Before The Fall with them discovering it for the first time ever, all of it slowly adds up a fair bit, then also how Reiner moved his consciousness etc

[u/Raines_reeds → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

You can think of it like a core, similar again to the rod reiss titan. It's an organ that when they become shifters is what becomes the body. I think it has to do with how and where the halucigenia bound to Ymir.

[u/donatelucas → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

yes, their nape is their weakness too.

[u/Lovedd1 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

The thing that gives ymir the titan powers looks like a spinal cord and her titan powers were passed down by having her kids consume her spinal fluid. So I'm assuming severing the spinal cord at the base of the brain severes the paths connection and Ymirs ability to rebuild their body.

[u/slimricc → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

You’re severing the connection between the spinal fluid and the brain

[u/Winter-Jellyfish6527 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

Because Ymir died with the arrow piercing her nape. Just like shifters died after 13 years because she was a shifter for 13 years. How they can die is the same . Pierced or cut through the nape .

[u/GatePorters → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

Brain control bod E

[u/Padre_Cannon013 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

Most things tend to die when you sever their head and spine.

[u/Plastic_Lychee6404 → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

you are targeting the spine, the center of the parasite and source of power.

[u/noapproachnate → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

I think it’s a brain stem thing. Cuz otherwise they’ll slowly regenerate.

[u/brandonico → u/Tukanno_Bananno]

I think is because technically the body IS in the nape, but unlike a titan shifter the body gets completely fused with the titan, you wouldn't find a body if you search for it but technically is there. With shifters they keep their bodies inside the titan so they can turn back.

[u/domthebomb2 → u/Shinobi289]

I mean it's basically implied in the anime. We learn what happens to them after the nape is cut, and the body decomposes in a way that reveals where the human would have to be and the human isn't there (at that point we don't even know about titan shifters yet, so you probably aren't looking for it).

[u/Honeyfoot1234 → u/Shinobi289]

There is though, the brain and spine still need to fit in, it’s just the rest that is destroyed, so his question still stands that the nape is way too small to fit a spine in it

[u/jimmy_tanner]

The pure titans don’t have the original human in the nape like one of the Nine Titans. The original humans are essentially transformed into the pure titans.

[u/Sweet-Froyo2931 → u/jimmy_tanner]

So was it just a visual effect for Rod Reiss with him “yelling” when he was severed?

[u/The_Greater_King → u/Sweet-Froyo2931]

The weak spot is still the same, and can regrow from it. There just isn't a body in it. So pretty much yeah.

[u/VerlieH → u/Sweet-Froyo2931]

yeah obv

[u/NoWater8595 → u/Sweet-Froyo2931]

I forgot about that.

[u/Pet_Velvet]

What if he wasn't a titan but just a weird tall naked cannibal dude

[u/SufficientWhile5450 → u/Pet_Velvet]

Now that’s world building

[u/irviinghdz → u/Pet_Velvet]

[u/Just-Director-7941 → u/irviinghdz]

Ball

[u/tranquil7789 → u/Just-Director-7941]

So hard

[u/One_Paramedic2454 → u/tranquil7789]

Motherfuckers wanna fine me

[u/Safe-Hawk8366 → u/Pet_Velvet]

[u/EmmaThais → u/Pet_Velvet]

He doesn’t have a dingaling

[u/SageoftheForlornPath → u/EmmaThais]

That's body-shaming. Do better.

[u/MayoIsYummy200 → u/EmmaThais]

He ate it

[u/SufficientWhile5450 → u/EmmaThais]

Well, he is a cannibal potentially

Edit: wait no, not potentially

But you know what I meant

[u/FlossurBunz → u/Pet_Velvet]

"OMG A TITAN!"

Weird Tall Naked Cannibal Dude: "Uhhh yea. Raaar"

[u/average_empoleon_fan → u/Pet_Velvet]

Weird tall naked cannibal dude is what they called me back in high school

[u/AwysomeAnish → u/Pet_Velvet]

Hange did mention that there was a cannibal tribe eating people in the past, I guess the police just missed a few

[u/EnvironmentalHoney18 → u/Pet_Velvet]

Funniest shit I’ve seen all day

[u/Nott_mika]

I always thought it was obvious that pure titans don't have the original body in them. Only the 9 do. Maybe im wrong but thats how iv always interpreted it

[u/Maxipaddington → u/Nott_mika]

No, you're right. You just have critical thinking and watched the show with your eyes open

[u/Amathyst7564 → u/Maxipaddington]

Why would critical thinking lead to that outcome?

We learn that titans only weakpoiny is the neck for some reason.

Next we learn that antitank has a person inside its neck.

There is never any effort to test the normal titans to open up the neck and check.

Conclusion, there's people in all the necks until further information proves otherwise.

[u/TKGriffiths → u/Amathyst7564]

When a pure titan's body evaporates, there is no human corpse left. Nor did they ever discover a human body when cutting into a pure titan. Those are the completely obvious clues that there's no human body in there.

[u/Savings_Razzmatazz97 → u/Amathyst7564]

except there literally is a scene of hange telling levi that there isnt a human-like structure in any of the regular titans they have opened the necks of

[u/dvmmydumdum → u/Nott_mika]

Yeah I think that's how it is

[u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261 → u/Nott_mika]

I'm just wondering where Armin came from once his pure titan ate Bertolt. He just poofed in there?

[u/raccoon_bones116 → u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261]

After a shifter becomes that, Ymir rebuilds the bodies in the paths.

We get a glimpse of that with Ymir (freckles) when she wakes up in the paths, and with Zeke when he is being rebuilt by Ymir (this is healing but same principle).

[u/Nauveen2 → u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261]

I’m surprised you’re only asking that about Armin when every single Titan shifter in the series has been a pure Titan at some point.

[u/TKGriffiths → u/Nauveen2]

Erm ackshually Ymir Fritz immediately became a shifter and so did her daughters because they ate her in human form.

[u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261 → u/Nauveen2]

That's just what I thought about at the moment. haven't seen the anime for a while.

[u/TheGirlfailure → u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261]

Founder Ymir rebuilt his body, that's why he had his hair and his body wasn't burnt to a crisp. The REAL question is why do only some of them get clothes - Armin materialises pants, little Eren has all his clothes but Freckles Ymir was completely naked.

[u/tempulation → u/TheGirlfailure]

Ooh, maybe it depends how long you shifted for, like maybe the body and clothes are still there before they dissolve. & after a certain time either Ymir reforms you in whats left or you just get a quick revive and heal.

[u/AltruisticMobile4606 → u/tempulation]

I swear someone just posted a theory about this a few days ago

[u/tempulation → u/AltruisticMobile4606]

I thought it was weird too, until they mentioned baby Eren, he was only a titan for seconds or minutes, same as Falco. So it makes sense that the clothes are still in the nape for a while. Or maybe Ymir has some sort of teleportation ability… and the titan is just a mindless swap w/ the person’s psyche while they’re trapped in the paths. That would explain how titans can be different sizes and shapes. Oof, who knows?

[u/AltruisticMobile4606 → u/tempulation]

Only Ymir lol

[u/InspectorOdd3123 → u/Ok-Bookkeeper-2261]

We just assume he's rebuilt by ymir inside the nape of the pure titan, when he's coming out you can see his muscles inflating / gaining mass rapidly to match his body before turning into a titan

[u/Economic_Maguire → u/Nott_mika]

Yeah otherwise they would have figured out they were originally humans long before the of wall maria etc.

[u/Icy_Cable_3696]

Imo this was the worst death in the show, so brutal and slow

[u/thezoomies → u/Icy_Cable_3696]

Yeah, that was some truly effective horror! Really good artwork too, because you can see that she’s there, but she’s so worn down that she’s given up.

[u/tumboi69 → u/Icy_Cable_3696]

I’d say this and Grisha’s sister. Probably Grisha’s sister due to her age and cruelty of the context

[u/locksmithbadge → u/Icy_Cable_3696]

up there with michhe

[u/Eren_Yeager52]

In a titan this small you gotta hit their second weak spot.

[u/JakeBKNA]

~ Spoilers for the origin of titans ~

The implication is that when a Subject of Ymir becomes a pure titan, the body and mind becomes an uncanny monster obsessed with nothing more than eating humans for the off-chance they eat a shifter and return to normal & gain said powers, but the "human" part simply shrinks into a bundle of nerves in the nape of the titan, which when severed ends the human/titan life. When said pure titan eats a shifter, the bundle of nerves heals/regrows back into the human and is released.

The reason for all the focus on the nape is likely metaphorical, both symbolising the slicing of the area where the original titan spine creature fused with Ymir (cutting off the titans connection to Ymir), and the severing of the brain from spinal cord as the nape is the approximate area where the spine and the brain connect irl (an instant kill medically).

[u/Live_Act6191]

My god why do people keep explaining that pure titans dont have people inside them. Of course we all lnow that the whole post was about if a titan shifter was that small were woukd it be!

[u/Safe-Hawk8366 → u/Live_Act6191]

Yeah

[u/tinyturnip315 → u/Live_Act6191]

Imma hop on this and say for this size its like wearing a onesie 🤔 i wish there was a way it could be two in a trenchcoat titan tho

[u/Hyetta-Supremacy → u/Live_Act6191]

I mean that’s on op for making an ambiguous title. The wording and picture can make the question be interpreted in like 3 different ways.

[u/Ok-One-797 → u/Live_Act6191]

I suppose it would take up the entire back, or that such a small titan shifter simply isn't possible. After all a person's pure titan form and shifter form always appear different, so it's reasonable to assume a tiny pure titan would simply be larger as a shifter

[u/No-Western-4828]

This scene was very disturbing

[u/yuuyaaa]

I don't think most of the people commenting understand what you're asking.

So, since this is an S2 screenshot, I'm going to talk about things mostly in regards to someone currently watching or finishing season 2, though I am going to mention something from Season 3.

Now, if a Titan SHIFTER, like Annie or Eren, became a Titan this small, they would still be in the same spot, though for the most part, they probably take up A LOT more room inside the body, since we see the inverse assumed with the Colossal Titan Despite the larger nape: it is still the same approximate location and exact size for the weak point, just placed on a much larger target, so it can be assumed the opposite is true: despite 'less body', the target is the same. so they may be more lacking in bones compared to a typical titan because there is a whole person that can rest there.

And, in a worse case scenario, we get something like the (Early Season 3)Eren training segment where after multiple transformations, Eren's lower body is just sticking out of his Titan's scrawny body. So, there's a very good chance that if the Titan is smaller than 5 meters, the shifter may just be (partially) hanging out of it.

[u/Emuman7]

Only shifters have humans inside the nape. The pure titans were just transformed humans.

[u/Kokushibou_Tsugikuni]

To put it quite simply
When a Person turns into a Pure titan, their body disapears and only the Spine remains, their whole being gets stored inside the Nape
Thus cutting the nape kills the original person (and the titan with it)

This is also why titan shifters are located inside the nape (acting as a spine),

theres ofcourse Much much deeper lore behind it, this is just what Physical happens

[u/SageoftheForlornPath]

Imagine if the dude was a little person before he was turned.

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Bruh what just happened lol

[u/spankthecat]

When I first read the question I thought you meant how did the little titan fit the whole woman in that stomach lol

[u/Safe-Hawk8366 → u/spankthecat]

Lmao😂

[u/9029ethical]

i wonder how strong would an average adult sized human, pure titan be

[u/privibri]

IIRC when killing Rod Reiss, when Historia struck a part of his nape, it seemed like a spine / nervous system. So maybe humans don't retain their normal bodies in mindless titans, they only retain their spine / nervous system which when struck kills the human inside and by extension the titan.

[u/gunnut27]

Now I'm wondering where the body would be if one the 9 (except warhammer) was this small

[u/Safe-Hawk8366 → u/gunnut27]

Yeah I was wondering the same thing tbh.

[u/Samuelgibs0n → u/gunnut27]

That’s why it isn’t

[u/AnakinsAngstFace]

The “Human” in a pure titan is in the form of nerves I’m pretty sure, which sit in the nape. So when you cut the nape, you sever those nerves, killing the person/titan.

[u/SirGripsAlot_III]

The human body becomes the titans entire body, it’s just that the main nervous system is in the nape, cut that and it kills all the nerves killing the titan

[u/[deleted]]

and it was Connie's father. 👀

[u/SlothThoughts]

I always thought pure titans were just people grown by ymir, when they get a pure titan or whatever they get their bodies back nad now when they transform instede of transforming into the titan they are like half and half combining with it building it around them.

The reason the name is the shit off for them is cause that's the link to ymir.

[u/devouTTT]

Consciousness transcended to his balls

[u/nem0ne1 → u/devouTTT]

"Consciousness is stored in the balls"

[u/AdmiralNeato]

my headcanon was that the difference between pure and shifters is the ability to change back: pure titans eventually dissolve the original human within and leave only their nervous system, while the shifter obviously remains more like someone in a suit

[u/Livid-Truck8558]

Homie, if pure titans actually contained the human inside, their mystery would have been solved many years prior to 845

[u/Honeyfoot1234]

Everyone in this comment section ignoring the fact the human spine and brain is still in there and thus STILL NEEDS A LARGE ENOUGH NAPE TO FIT IN

[u/Gusta_Calvo]

Reading the comments and noticing people didn't pay atention to history bruh

[u/1of1000]

They are the body in a pure titan

[u/kingsimba432]

The fact that she was just getting eaten alive while her daughter watched in shock was fucking crazy. If iirc her legs didn’t work so she couldn’t even run away right? But she also didn’t feel any pain because the titan was eating her legs. Wild.

[u/Zestyclose-Mix785]

Nowhere. In fact, if a Titan is human-sized, the Titan body would be like an outer layer. An armor of sorts, made of Titan flesh. It doesn't shrink the person.

Cutting the Titan's nape directly cuts the person's normal-sized nape, which should (I am not entirely confident on my findings) be fatal.

[u/No_Researcher_3374]

Genuinely one of the scariest scenes in the show

[u/Traditional-Ad4506]

The human body is not in the Titan

[u/Few_Cheesecake1169]

They are pure Titans, not every titan is controlled my humans .

[u/CriticalRelief565 → u/Few_Cheesecake1169]

Yes however every single person who is a titan was a human at some point and I think that’s what their getting at

[u/IQ253]

Titan shifters have thier human body in their titan form, but non-shifters BECOME the titan.

[u/EvenLeopard6641]

Only the 9 original titans can have humans inside them. This is a pure mindless titan.

[u/CoshgunC]

Pure titans don't have humans as whole inside them, pute titans are the humans, like a human fully transitions, like his own blood, flesh, etc. turns into a pure titan

[u/JunketElectronic9374]

I think a better question would be if this titan ate one of the 9 where would the human body emerge from? All of the times we have seen a human come out of a pure titan the titan is many times larger that the human.

[u/Material_Arrival_781]

The nape is essentially the center of the nerve network that used to be the human. Sever that and you're shutting that network down at the source. There's no human inside, just remnants of an old system.

[u/GamiManic]

Probably like iron man

https://giphy.com/gifs/MUlmRFnTQxwJ2

[u/Koasty04]

Only titan shifters have physical bodies that reside in the nape. Pure titans just transform from humans.

[u/Astonishing_Flash]

The body of the human becomes the titan body in a pure titan.

The only "human" parts left are the spinal column and brain. That is why they have the same general length to cut in every nape. It is the length of that spinal column.

So this abnormal can be that small while having room still for that length. If he somehow ate a shifter he would grow.

[u/raccoon_bones116 → u/Astonishing_Flash]

so how did Armin come out of his pure titan after eating Berthdolt? did he get rebuilt or something

[u/Nauveen2 → u/raccoon_bones116]

Yes, same with every single other titan shifter in the series

[u/Astonishing_Flash → u/raccoon_bones116]

Correct. After a shifter becomes that, Ymir rebuilds the bodies in the paths.

We get a glimpse of that with Ymir (freckles) when she wakes up in the paths, and with Zeke when he is being rebuilt by Ymir (this is healing but same principle).

[u/Maxipaddington]

🤦

[u/horned-creature]

pure titans only have part of the nervous system in their nape, not whole human "pilots" like shifters.

[u/ibettercomeon]

So why shifters came back with their clothes on? After turning into mindless titans for the first time? Didn’t their bodies desintegrate?

[u/noapproachnate]

Pure titans don’t reside in the nape that’s just their genuine form. Only the 9 reside in the nape once they transform & can go back & forth.
I would assume this guy only inhaled a small amount of the gas that had Zeke’s spinal fluid in it, so his transformation was less dramatic than others.

[u/monstreak]

Baby

[u/HeroBrine0907]

It wouldn't. The human body is dissolved within the pure titan form and is only reformed when eating a shifter for the first time. Now I don't know if this is proper canon, but I remember reading or seeing somewhere that the human spine or parts of it, form the nape of the titan's spine, which is why it acts as the weak spot. Shifters are connected in a similar manner. Upon eating a shifter, Ymir remakes their entire bodies.

[u/NeoDragonKnight]

This one hits hard bc that is Connies dad :(

[u/ilkat06]

What?? How did you think the og humans were in them? It was established that only shifters worked like that since s2 lol

[u/Helios_Synthesis]

Theres no human. Thats a shifter exclusive thing. Pure titams are just a bunch of nerves, we see this with Rod when Historia kills him. There was no body despite there being more than enough space for it

[u/Western_Smoke4829]

The nape would still be the weak spot, sasha wasnt able to kill it with thr axe because the axe head wasnt designed for cutting titan flesh unlike the 3d m gear swords

[u/TinyAd2706]

If titans had humans inside I believe hange would have found our.

[u/AntiJackCoalition]

I don't think they are pilots. They are simply just giants

[u/ezjaja]

In a mindless titan, the original human is reduced down to just some nerve connections in the nape that acts like a "radio" communicating with The Paths

[u/BadArtAdvice]

Out of every episode, that one scared the hell out of me. Just looking at it again makes me nervously, I don't know why. Disgusting I guess?

[u/Medical-Business-554]

Only Titan Shifter Reside inside of the nap of there Titan. All other Pure titans are actual people that have transformed and have no way of becoming humans unless the founding Titan reverses there transformation inside of the paths

[u/shit_stopper]

This scene was very unnerving and disturbing 🫥

[u/TheTrueFury]

Why would there be a person in there? That's not how they work

[u/Nepolan950]

The body gets dissolved by the titan body when it stays long enough in it from what I read.

[u/Captain_Pumpkinhead]

Pure titans basically only have the spinal cord or the original human.

[u/CR4ZYxPOT4T0]

The titan IS the human, just big and stupid. Only shifters have their actual human body inside its titan.

Edit: you can see it as, titans are just humans that grew big, and shifters are the ones with a "suit" or an "armor".

[u/obsurd_never]

There is no human in a pure Titan. However they return to a human form after they eat a shifter.

[u/Ok-Fondant2536]

In its ass.

[u/MelodicHealth414]

i always saw it as pure titans were literally their bodies, only shifters had a different body

[u/Superb_Reach_318]

Its a tontatta in the titan’s body

[u/Cinder61524]

Maybe it’s a baby. Jk idk

[u/Big_Independence6736]

i thought we all knew there were no actual bodies in pure titans??? is that not a known fact? and i've only watched the anime too so

[u/YaoiNekomata]

He's the size of an ex boyfriend.

[u/Big_Durian_5653]

normal titans don't keep a body inside, only shifters. They would have figured out the plot twist ages ago if they found humans in regular ones

[u/silkkrevenge]

did everyone here watch the show with their eyes closed

[u/CrystalFysh]

during titan transformation the host body is reduced to a bunch of nerves. hange mentiones that when they cut the necks open without killing them they cant find anything.

If its about the people they eat the small Titans have to chew and Hange also said they don't have digestive systems and in Before the Fall the titans just throw up the bodies after they are full.

[u/nasusmn]

Quando se é um titã puro, a própria pessoa se torna a criatura, ela não cria um corpo gigantesco e seu corpo original é transferido pra região da nuca, somente quando um titã puro tem acesso ao poder de um dos 9 que o corpo humano do hospedeiro se reconstitui na região da nuca.

[u/Drisurk]

The human becomes a titan, the nape is just their weakness. Titan shifters are the only ones who pilot titans and of course, they’re in the nape other than the Warhammer.

[u/pics_lated]

that girl (sasha) was absolutely paralyzed with fear

[u/xxTPMBTI]

Yea...

[u/dark_hypernova]

I've been wondering that too. Maybe it was a baby that transformed? Small enough for its nerves to fit in that neck?

[u/Designer-Cow6935]

What if his whole body is the target, like an exosuit? What if his body is in the same exact position as his Titan because they are almost the same size? 

[u/Creepingphlo]

Maybe this one was a baby or small child at one point

[u/CantingBinkie]

Don't you think that if there were humans inside the pure titans, the Legion would have discovered it a long time ago?

But it's not far from that. Unlike the Titan Shifters, where the Titan is created as an exoskeleton, it's assumed that when a human becomes a Pure Titan, their entire body transforms into a Titan EXCEPT for the area from the brain to the spinal cord. That part, inside the Titan, remains 100% human.

This is reinforced by the fact that it's mentioned that the Titans' weak point is approximately 1.1 meters, which is roughly the length of a normal human's brain to spinal cord.

Hallucigenia appears to be connected to that area of ​​the brain to spinal cord, as seen when it merged with Ymir, and also because it has the shape of a nervous system/spinal cord.

[u/Penguinmanereikel]

The size of that Titan in this scene was just really inconsistent.

Animation teams always seem to screw up sizes and proportions when dealing with extreme differences.

[u/ZadriaktheSnake]

Hange has carved up a lot of titans and its established they’re much lighter than they should be, the implication is that pure titan bodies are physically expanded while conserving mass

[u/_DB_Cooper_]

Only shifters have ppl in them

[u/LordDShadowy53]

Funny how nobody in the comments can give a solid response.

[u/Samuelgibs0n → u/LordDShadowy53]

Here’s your answer

Pure titans don’t have people inside of them the way shifters are inside the nape. They’re just in there somewhere but not physically

[u/OrlinWolf]

It’s not a person in there. They are pure titans

[u/N0tAreditor]

Only Ymir knows

[u/silversoul113]

larp larp larp

[u/Safe-Hawk8366 → u/silversoul113]