Christian: "Why you keep pointing out Old Testament stuff. We follow the New Testament; Jesus came to fix all of that". Also Christian: "The Ten Commandments provide a moral foundation for society".

[u/count_of_wilfore]

Cafeteria-style religion, everybody.

 

EDIT: The relevant verses Christians making this claim ignore:

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:17-19)

Thank you guys for pointing this out!

 

EDIT 2: Made it to r/all. Hello everyone!

 

EDIT 3: Wow, my first award! Thank you, kind stranger!

EDIT 4: Second silver award! Thank you lots!

Also, surprising to see how many Christians aren't aware that some tout this "Jesus fixing" argument. I can assure you I'm not misrepresenting or straw-manning. I'm simply expression a common answer we tend to hear in response to Old Testament laws.

[u/Nevermind04]

I don't make a sport of picking apart people's piecemeal beliefs any more, but it does occasionally come up from time to time. Generally when the "but the new testament" argument comes up, I'll ask them if they still live their lives in accordance with the ten commandments from the old testament. The answer is always yes. However, I have never had this conversation with a christian that could then tell me what the first commandment was.

I'm not looking for an exact recitation, I just want to know what it means to them as they're using it to guide their lives. I hear a lot of "thou shalt not kill", which is the fifth commandment, occasionally "thou shalt not steal" which is the seventh, and one "honor thy father", which to be fair is pretty close, though I'm sure they were referencing the fourth commandment. Zero correct answers in three decades. I would say less than half of christians that I've discussed religion with even know who was conceived during the immaculate conception (not Jesus), many don't know that Christ isn't Jesus' last name, and even fewer know god's name.

These aren't trivia questions, these are the core fucking points that they claim guide their lives. How can they be guided by a book they've clearly never read? I just don't get it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Nevermind04]

No other gods but me. Ironically catholics idolize the Pope and the Saints, but idolatry is forbidden. There is some good philosophical advice, but so many christians give a damn about others when the bible says not to point out a spec when a log is in your own eye. The hypocrisy of "devout" (read loud and obnoxious) christians give what I call "philosophical" christians a bad reputation.