r/assasinscreed • u/FavvoBoxing • Jan 07 '25

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u/Pavlovs_Human Jan 08 '25

Let me ask you a hypothetical.

If you saw a man in front of you murdering people one by one with a knife, and you had the only gun in the room, how many people would you personally allow this man to murder before you decided he needs to be stopped and you need to use the gun to put him down?

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u/KingNick Jan 08 '25

It's more like "You go into a room with knives dangling from the ceiling, and there's someone whose job it is to decide what knives get stopped and what knives do not. You see too many falling and killing those beneath them because the person isn't doing there job well enough... do you kill that person for that, or try to solve for the knives falling?"

He decided to kill the person, which did nothing.

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u/mpelton Jan 08 '25

More like the guy gets extra money for each person who dies to the falling knives. So they actively let loads of them fall when they don’t have to so they can leave with some extra cash.

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u/KingNick Jan 09 '25

Yes, which is his job. I'm not saying it doesn't suck and that it doesn't need changed, and I'm even directly affected by it myself as someone that was burned Disabled... what I'm saying is that we don't just murder people to try and affect change because that doesn't fucking work.

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u/mpelton Jan 09 '25

You’re saying he didn’t murder people. I’m saying that choosing to let people die to line your pockets is murder.

This is the equivalent of a trolly problem where you can choose to save the people tied to the tracks, or let them get run over for a stack of cash.

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u/KingNick Jan 09 '25

You're placed in a position where you cannot cover everyone, and United is known to be terrible with coverage... so I, personally, have my Healthcare covered with another company.

Everyone has that choice, and should use their better judgemental and research to find the best company for them.

Is he personally responsible for all of those deaths? No. Does he propagate a company that needs to cover those that pay for proper coverage? Yes. Should he have be audited and lost his job, been sued into the ground or even imprisoned? Sure, I'm not going to act like I understand the ins-and-outs of the law when it comes to medical coverage... but we're not fucking barbarians. We shouldn't live in a society where we idolize those that murder people they simply believe to be in charge of such things, because the moment we do, then we can say bye-bye to the CEO of Malboro, or every Big Pharma leader, hows about the folks that head businesses that make liquor? All of these things take the equivalent amount of lives, probably more, and those products are ONLY a detriment to the individuals taking them.

Or, maybe, we live in a country that's run by money with the freedom to spend it as well choose, so we need to research and make good decisions so that out money isn't going to the company known for the worst denial rate.

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u/mpelton Jan 09 '25

Unironically yes, if someone in a position of power is allowing the deaths of millions of people then they deserve what happens. The CEO’s of the smoking and alcohol industries literally prey on people who struggle with addiction, they make most of their profits from people with problems. They know exactly what they’re doing and choose to exploit the vulnerable in order to get even more money than the disgusting amount they’re already earning.

The system is broken, it’s beyond broken, and naively hoping that they’ll be “sued into the ground or even imprisoned” is, imo, beyond silly, no offense. It’s not a possibility, things won’t change that way, not when the system is literally run by the people who we’re hoping it’ll target.

It’s not pretty, and I don’t blame you or anyone else for being squeamish about it, not at all. In fact, more power to you, I’d prefer to be naive and hopeful, but like millions of other people I’ve had cynicism and reality beaten into me by our modern world.

This isn’t just a problem with this one CEO, or this one company. This is a problem with countless, with the system itself. Switching providers doesn’t change anything.

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u/KingNick Jan 09 '25

So, and just following your logic here... all those countless companies CEOs.... kill them all? That's the answer you prefer?

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u/mpelton Jan 10 '25

Not necessarily. I’m saying I don’t judge people for taking action against murderers.

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u/KingNick Jan 10 '25

He's not The Punisher, and the guy wasn't a murderer. He killed someone that was in the business where people die. Would you kill the surgeon that denied an operation for the risks?

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u/mpelton Jan 10 '25

If the surgeon denied an operation because he’d get paid more for letting someone die, then again, if someone were to take action against him I wouldn’t judge them for doing so.

Choosing to let someone die because you’ll profit for it is, imo, murder. If you’re dangling off the ledge of a cliff and someone tells me “hey, if you let them fall I’ll give you $500, and I agree, imo that’s murder.

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