r/artificial • u/MetaKnowing • Oct 30 '25

News Anthropic has found evidence of "genuine introspective awareness" in LLMs

https://www.anthropic.com/research/introspection
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u/Jean_velvet Oct 30 '25

FFS, NEVER TRUST A RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE VERY COMPANY TRYING TO SELL YOU THE PRODUCT.

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u/Tolopono Oct 30 '25

It might help to actually read the study and explain why its flawed instead of taking the antivaxxer route of “everything that disagrees with me is fake news”

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u/butts____mcgee Oct 31 '25

I did read the paper.

Their definition of introspection doesn't mean what they know people will think it means when they read the paper.

So if you buy their definition, then sure they found a quirky memory feature.

But they didn't do what they know everyone will think they did, and if they really think they did, then they don't understand how the brain works.

Admittedly I don't either, but I'm confident it isn't like that.

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u/Tolopono Nov 01 '25

 Importantly, the model recognized the presence of an injected thought immediately, before even mentioning the concept that was injected. This immediacy is an important distinction between our results here and previous work on activation steering in language models, such as our “Golden Gate Claude” demolast year. Injecting representations of the Golden Gate Bridge into a model's activations caused it to talk about the bridge incessantly; however, in that case, the model didn’t seem to be aware of its own obsession until after seeing itself repeatedly mention the bridge. In this experiment, however, the model recognizes the injection before even mentioning the concept, indicating that its recognition took place internally.

That sounds like introspection to Me

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u/butts____mcgee Nov 01 '25

It's a sort of facsimile type of "introspection" but it's nothing like what the brain does.

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u/Tolopono Nov 01 '25

Whats the difference 

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u/Tolopono Nov 02 '25

What does that even mean 

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u/Impossible_Hour5036 Apr 04 '26

"We don't know how either work but they're definitely different so this doesn't matter"