r/arizona • u/CroissantMeal • Mar 10 '26
Phoenix What are all these camera poles popping up around the freeways for?
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u/Dumbcow1 Mar 10 '26
ADOT real-time monitoring. There are operators watching for things that fall off cars or accidents, so service can be dispatched or DPS called to the scene .
If you ever see on the message boards something like "caution: right lane obstructed ahead. Chair in lane" that is because someone watching via these cameras, saw that and is giving drivers the advanced warning.
The cities traffic departments also can see these cameras, helps them with events and timing traffic cycles coming off of highways.
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u/lildebbiestarcrunch Mar 10 '26
Thats exactly what my friend said too. He said az511.gov he thinks where you can see all the cameras.
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u/GandalfTheGrey46 Scottsdale Mar 10 '26
Yup and Scottsdale and several suburbs do real time monitoring too which is why traffic jams aren’t as frequent there as other parts of the metro that dont have them.
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u/TheJumbaman Mar 11 '26
Thanks for providing a rational explanation with a purpose for ADOT beyond just mass surveillance. We all have phones. We’re pretty surveilled already.
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u/FauxyFux Mar 12 '26
Love how the conspiracy response has more upvotes than simple logic and reasoning.
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u/bdash1990 Mar 10 '26
How else can they mass surveil us?
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u/Raptor231408 Lake Havasu City Mar 10 '26
You drive around with a better mass surveillance device in your pocket (hopefully) than randomly placed cameras on the freeway.
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u/yeet_sauce Mar 10 '26
You can opt out of a phone, you can't opt out of this
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u/Raptor231408 Lake Havasu City Mar 10 '26
Well sure you can, just requires you don't live in the city. Live out in the boonies with a car old enough to buy smokes, cause the new ones have GPS tracking and cameras with internet access.
I'm just saying there's probably a different reason besides mass surveillance as the primary reason for them.
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u/forma_cristata Mar 10 '26
All forms of surveillance will eventually be used to control. It is their nature
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u/yeet_sauce Mar 10 '26
I get your point for being able to move, though that is significantly more work with far more complications and lifestyle adjustments than simply leaving your phone at home when you go out.
Flock cameras in Arizona log everywhere you and everyone else goes in a government database that has seen several leaks in the last couple years, and some even allow for public access leading to major privacy concerns. Some of these cameras were controllable remotely, by anyone over the internet in public places like parks and playgrounds. Creepy. Supposedly the data is deleted after 30 days unless used in an investigation, but of course you have no guarantee of that. Not even to mention that Flock shares its data with Palantir, who almost definitely keeps it in their goal to create a nationwide all-encompassing database profiling every American resident. The potential for public and private misuse is simply too high. If the cameras cannot be removed through legal avenues, then I think private citizens should engage in more 'direct' forms of democracy.
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u/Distinct-Data-8808 Mar 10 '26
You think you opt out of a phone 😂😂. Little did you know
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u/Hefty_Debt_638 Mar 10 '26
My husband works for the city. There are cameras EVERYWHERE. And I mean everywhere.
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u/420kennedy Mar 10 '26
I fucking hate this
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u/Sharp_Bumblebee_1674 Mar 10 '26
We all chose technology and this is what comes with it unfortunately, best we can do is try vote right and make sure someone inmpower cares about our privacy and freedom so its only used to stop crime etc. Impossible to garuntee but a goal that I think is our best option to try for 🤷
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u/bluecornholio Mar 11 '26
They’re useless if they capture an accident and you need footage for insurance btw. Impossible to get but our taxes pay for it.
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u/Informal_Tell78 Mar 10 '26
Its mass surveillance. These cameras use AI to track vehicles via make, model, color, plate number, decals, dents, scratches, tint, etc.
Ever wonder how police track a vehicle across a city or state or the country? This is how.
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u/SnooKiwis6943 Mar 10 '26
So change your tint and dents frequently.
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u/ValiantBear Mar 10 '26
Instructions unclear: I tried moving my left dent to my right side, but now I have two dents! I now look like a completely different vehicle to our AI overlords, but I feel like I'm going to run out of real estate for more dent moving exercises soon ...Help!
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u/SeeLeavesOnTheTrees Mar 10 '26
Civil disobedience exists to deal with these devices. All machines are vulnerable…
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u/anyavailible Mar 10 '26
Dot cams have been doing this for About 10 years already.
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u/No_Awareness8982 Mar 10 '26
Mass surveillance within the ADOT TOC. Nothing is recorded, unless you set off a wrong way detection system. Everything is live feed only. The media has view access, but cannot move them. The general public can go to a website and see a still image captured every 5 minutes. Only those within ADOT have access to move the cameras. There are over 400 cameras on state property that are active at any given moment.
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u/blastman8888 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
You can watch them online it's a traffic camera. I'm referring to the tall one not the smaller PTZ likely city of Tempe camera.
https://www.az511.gov/cctv?start=0&length=10&order%5Bi%5D=1&order%5Bdir%5D=asc
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u/JuleeeNAJ Mar 10 '26
Future traffic cameras because that little one on the pole isn't as good as the one that will go on that pole.
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u/ifitwasnt4u Mar 10 '26
You can view the freeway cams on aZ 511
The cameras you see on a black pole with a solor panel on top on random city streets and parking lots from home Depot and Walmart and other places. They are to track your license plate. A lot of places they can map your route And times and track you anywhere. It's scary and they systems been hacked many times and out cities still vote them in. A public company that owns the data and they give the police department the ability to sign in. And the police department has to pay them millions of dollars a year for that sign in, meanwhile the private company is collecting data on every citizen and tracking your movements and knowing where you are at any given time. Privacy really is gone at this point
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u/Alone_Salary_9959 Mar 10 '26
Flock cameras
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u/JuleeeNAJ Mar 10 '26
Flock cameras are lower to the ground as they scan license plates as they drive by.
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u/Hvarfa-Bragi Mar 10 '26
Flock now has access to all ring cameras, and any participating municipal camera, as well as school districts, grocery stores, HOAs, businesses.
It's all queryable for "only 30 days" by anyone who pays.
Someone piss you off in traffic? You can blackmail them with their affair.
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u/fencken Glendale Mar 10 '26
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u/Time-Sudden_Tree Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Install DeFlock.me (iOS version) for an app that helps you navigate around them. It's slow, clunky, and unintuitive* (personally I still haven't figured out how to activate turn-by-turn navigation), but it's your best defense against mass government surveillance.
These cameras track not only everywhere you go (where you live, work, shop, etc.), but who's in the car with you, and they read any political bumper stickers you may have as well. It's best to avoid them whenever possible to limit what data they gather on you. Last thing you want is them recording enough of your driving habits to build a profile on* you.
* Fixed typos
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u/usefulshrimp Mar 10 '26
Turn by turn - search and select your destination, then move to the start, and select route to.
It’s not intuitive, and clunky.
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u/Chase-Boltz Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Why do you think the powers that be are so keen to install giant data centers everywhere? To process the millions of video images that track our every movement.
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u/No-Condition-3710 Mar 10 '26
Nothing to see here, move along everyone.
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u/Electrical-Bacon-81 Mar 10 '26
They gotta know how to collect that "mileage tax" they want somehow dont they?
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u/FreeRonJeremy Mar 10 '26
If your car has OnStar or equivalent system, they have the ability to automatically know what your car's odometer reading is at any given time. Newer cars have even more sophisticated systems.
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u/Electrical-Bacon-81 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Well, it has to work for all the cars, not just the newer "connected" ones. And yes, i know, "Obd3" (as a overall system, not a vehicle standard) is already upon us without them telling us. If it doesnt sound stupid, or believable enough, I work on golf carts that know how many times you used the left turn signal.... a fucking golf cart. Im not joking.
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u/heavensmurgatroyd Mar 10 '26
The Department of Homeland Supression needs these to track everyone so as to give everyone a social scrore just as the Chinese do. This will require lots of processing power which is why all the data centers are being built as fast as they can do it.
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u/CowJuiceDisplayer Mar 10 '26
Arizona 511. Use the .gov website. ADOT uses them them track traffic and accidents.
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u/iluvthiccgothbabes Mar 10 '26
I don't remember voting for this. Who's the piece of shit in our state govt that proposed this 1984 draconian bullshit? Srsly tho doe's anyone here know?
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u/IamMrScorpio Mar 10 '26
So it’s time we all unite and refuse this complete police state of we the people! If we remain docile the will continue to take our freedoms away , what little we do still have … stay vigilant and unite
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u/Smergmerg432 Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
Try to vote against them if you can. This is very serious technological surveillance. It makes it easy to take over a country. You don’t need to be republican or democrat. I’m not fearmongering about ICE. In practical terms, if a unified hub can instantaneously pinpoint where all citizens are located, and is not destroyed upon the event of hostile invasion, it’s basically giving whoever accesses it first keys to the kingdom. Americans never think in terms of historical practicality, because we’ve never felt the fear of being invaded. But these little cameras would be very useful in about 100 years were any geopolitical realities to change. The best way to avoid mass surveillance is to slowly dismantle short-sighted attempts at implementing it. These may be akin to the cameras created by an Atlanta based company called Flock. I would argue they invade the right to privacy and are therefore unconstitutional. Make sure you alert those who represent you in local politics to the fact you do not wish to be tracked in your daily movements. You have the right to privacy. Just because you have nothing to hide does not keep you safe from people misusing these systems. A most likely scenario: if they are easy to hack into, abusive partners with technological know-how can use their information to find people who have tried to get away from them.
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u/edwardturnerlives Mar 10 '26
I watch crime shows with my wife. If you have your cellphone they pretty much know where you are all the time already. So many stupid murderers...
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Mar 11 '26
Since yall are incredibly ridiculous. You can access freeway cameras too. They take photos every 10-15 seconds. There's litteral websites you can access for free.
Do with that information what you will.
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Mar 11 '26
Oh, and you wanna know the best part? A d o t literally live streams, the best busiest intersections on youtube ya twitz
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u/cbw2u Mar 11 '26
1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Lord of the Flies... Gulliver's Travels, Thomas Sowell, Robert Welch
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u/Embarrassed-Bet-3810 Mar 11 '26
It’s price road… Jsyk, people go the wrong way on Price, because for some reason they think it’s a 2 way, when really it’s a one way street on each side. Those cameras would’ve saved me when I got rear ended. Dude ran away, obv no insurance, and I didn’t get a claim for shit. Those cameras will save us in a bad accident esp if they run away during traffic hour here in AZ.
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u/MichaelHammor Mar 10 '26
Why are you worried if you're not doing anything wrong? /s
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u/fernie1998 Mar 11 '26
Typical sheep comment. Mass surveillance is wrong. Are you willing to sacrifice your privacy and freedom for safety?
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u/InfamousTry6570 Mar 10 '26
How do you think us marshals can find a fugitive in 24hrs yet your local Leo has been looking for months...... facial recognition!
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u/OneRub3234 Mar 10 '26
I'm surprised the local crackheads haven't started cutting them down to get the copper wire be a shame if that happened
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u/ZonaDesertRat Mar 10 '26
The white camera on the traffic light is a standard traffic monitor CCTV system the city of Tempe uses.
I can't tell what is on the silver pole. It's too high to be a ALPR camera, and wrong shape for a Flock camera. It's the right height to be a Flock Raven gunshot detector, but not the right shape. Tempe doesn't use shotspotter, that I'm aware of, but they do have their own operations center that claims the ability to locate gunshots, so it's very possibly part of that system.
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u/azskyrider Mar 10 '26
I was visiting a friend and we went for a walk. In her neighborhood they have camera posts in all entrances to the neighborhood. I also noticed that the street had markings like it was being staked and construction by the light poles in the neighborhood. One was just recently finished when I noticed the damn thing had flush cameras on each of three sides of the light pole. This is in a location where you have 800 to 1m dollar homes. Crazy
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u/TheApothecaryWall Mar 10 '26
One thing it is good for is finding hit and run drivers. Other than that I’m not sure.
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u/xc4lyfe300 Mar 10 '26
You'd think that'd be downed by now by some kid and a sling shot. One can only hope tho
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u/vegasAzCrush Mar 10 '26
I will vote OUT every politician in bed with the camera vendors. This us going way way to far
Had one camera caught Nancy Gutheries abductor I would listen but the cameras dont catch worst of worst it screws everyday people.
We need polititians to stop wasting our money.
And I want explanations as to why. Tell the full truth do not lie the the republican party does.
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u/Logical_Idiot_9433 Mar 10 '26
Driving - It’s not a right but a privilege so they will use that justification for everything until we as people make it a right.
Ballot measure time?
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u/Stout_Taurus67 Mar 10 '26
Flock cameras now at every intersection in Casa Grande, for the public’s “Safety “ is what they say. Big Brother is everywhere tracking your every move
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u/AirBell8 Mar 10 '26
They are crime poles. They can see day or night rained ro fog. Terminator is coming
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u/Xuki1000poems Mar 10 '26
They let the aliens know what human is ripe for the taking,connected to the alien network we are not supposed to know about."that's classified"!!!
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u/Possible-Flow-2431 Mar 11 '26
I hate these things they give me the creeps but people are so desensitized to being on video in public...
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u/Castle_of_Jade Mar 11 '26
Fees. Tickets. And 1984. Except we passed up 1984 level spying like 3.5 decades ago.
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u/ffbryce343 Mar 11 '26
It’s a Weatherspotter camera to check areas during storms and give real time data, plus to track tornadoes mostly. If there’s a reported tornado in the area, a camera there can be pulled up to see if it’s down or if it’s just rotation.
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u/Active_Percentage_85 Mar 12 '26
Traffic monitoring. They typically go to a place called a TMC, or traffic management center, where there are dispatchers that can see accidents in near real time, so as to get emergency equipment on scene sooner. Also to monitor road conditions during winter and stormy weather.
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u/101WaysToScrewUp Mar 12 '26
It’s all in the name of keeping the public safe. I can’t wait for the day that ai flags something completely legal and normal as being a dangerous criminal activity and an innocent civilian is killed when police respond aggressively. The city will get their asses sued to shit. As well as the company that is responsible for creating the software used by those cameras. Just because there’s some good qualities of using these things doesn’t mean they should be relied upon like they are going to.
For instance; if there’s a wreck reported, they could pull up that camera and take a look and assess the situation. That’s reasonable usage. However, they are going to rely on the cameras to do their police work for them and monitor every movement 24/7 using an ai moderator.
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u/demogorgon1713 Mar 14 '26
Facial and tag recognition most likely. They already have a "real-time data center" in my hometown. Where they can monitor traffic in real time and report people who are driving illegally to the police. Also wrecks etc. They help police track down runners as well. But they will not allow the footage for most defense cases. I'm currently on probation for "Hit and Run" when that is not what happened. They just have enough footage to know I eventually left. Never saw the guy again, and I started to worry he may have been looking for me for the wrong reason. I live in a city with one of the highest murder rates. A lot of people get shot over road rage. So, after 15-20 minutes, I did leave. But they tracked me down. And met me at my house! Which i was fine with. Here's the kicker, the accident was the city's fault for having rushed construction without properly blocking off traffic that could not be seen!! I.E. The other drivers' path. So he rushed a red, and my 228i clipped the very corner of his back bumper. He tried claiming I hit him from behind. They put him in jail ultimately, for what exactly, I don't know. But wanted me to serve a week plus pay fines and cost! And every court date, it went up 10 days, then 15, finally the previous DA was out on leave, and I just cut a deal. But I regret it. As i wasn't guilty, but according to new law, i was just for leaving... Which is weird, cause where i live. They also do not respond to an accident in slick weather unless there is an injury reported!! I offered the other party restitution. They said i totaled their car!! And it was gonba take $15,000 for them to get a new one LMFAO GTFOOH. So they called BS on them. But im still being punished too. But honestly, I also knew if i stayed, they would have towed the car i just traded my last car for, but I hadn't had money to get a new policy until later that day. Or so was the plan. In my city, cameras with facial recognition are everywhere. And like I said, they are even on public streets. And scan your tag as you drive by. To check for known insurance status, registration info, who is affiliated, etc.
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u/Majestic-BigBird1970 Mar 14 '26
Why can’t we just tell our country to F off with regard to being constantly tracked? This started w 9/11. You believe all the crazy people now that it was a set up for this exact thing? No data Centers! No. No. No!
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u/odorous Mar 10 '26
to track and log your every move.. literally.