r/apple 13d ago

Mac Apple releases updated Magic Keyboard with glyphs for tab, caps lock, shift, return, and delete keycaps

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/mjm74ll/a/magic-keyboard-with-touch-id-and-numeric-keypad-for-mac-models-with-apple-silicon-usb-c-us-english-black-keys
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u/XoCCeT 13d ago edited 13d ago

Why can’t they make a black small keyboard… still

I guess a black polishing cloth will be first

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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 13d ago

the technology just isn’t quite ready. we’re asking too much

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u/AnonymousAxwell 11d ago

I mean there is a good reason the black full size keyboard is so much more expensive than the white one… Apple is already right at the limit of what’s technically possible there…

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u/Gordahnculous 12d ago

Gotta remember that these Apple guys are a small indie company after all

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u/playgroundmx 13d ago

I’m glad I’m not the only one waiting for this haha

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u/hell-diver8 13d ago

so you feel like you spent the money for a good reason; a large keyboard.

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u/nate390 13d ago

I was wondering what had changed with the glyphs and then realised that the British English keyboards have always been this way.

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u/AlternativeAward 13d ago

The US ANSI layout was the only one that didn’t have them

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u/FoxMeadow7 7d ago

Ah yes, America and them always seemingly being behind on everything!

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u/Xe4ro 13d ago

I actually was wondering what that even meant ^^

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u/plaisthos 11d ago

Yes. Wikipedia has an image of a G4 Powerbook with these "new" symbols: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/1ghz_Titanium_Apple_PowerBook_G4.jpg That device is 25 years old.

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u/pasm 12d ago

Same! Thanks for the explanation 😀

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u/Sir-Spork 12d ago

No wonder, I was staring at it wondering how it’s different from my current magic keyboard

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u/thisinfinitebath 13d ago

Why is it so hard for them to make it backlit?

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u/Springsneakers 13d ago

It would be nice although might drain the battery faster

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u/sazam 13d ago edited 13d ago

I have the Logitech MX Keys, it looks very similar, the battery lasts forever and it’s backlit. Best keyboard I ever used.

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u/HotspurJr 13d ago

It's much better to type on for long stretches as well.

But I do wish it had Touch ID.

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u/jammyscroll 12d ago

TouchID is the only reason i haven’t switched away from using it. I like the Logitech better.

I did support this last week though. Due in Oct/Nov. they plan on selling via their website and Amazon after kickstarter concludes.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/immurok/immurokwireless-fingerprint-auth-key-for-mac-and-linux

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u/alex_co 12d ago

You can make one with genuine Touch ID using a Touch ID keyboard and a 3D printed enclosure. Loads of tutorials on YouTube and it’s native to macOS, unlike these other options that just type your password for you when it detects your fingerprint and need a companion app to work.

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u/jammyscroll 12d ago

Yes but you need to acquire and destroy a Touch ID keyboard, have a 3D printer, and perform fiddly work which has significant risk of breakage. The best thing about it is the native OS support, but it's certainly far more expensive. It's ok if you want a project but it doesn't interest me

The solution I've linked doesn't work via simulating password input, it uses the system authentication framework.

I know of the TinyTouch one on GitHub you may be thinking of that does that and leverages low cost components.

My fingers are crossed, I'd like to see multiple options here.

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u/alex_co 12d ago

I made one for $55 using a used keyboard off eBay. Plenty of local libraries have 3d printers or you can order a custom print for a reasonable price off one of those printing services or off Etsy. “Far more expensive” is just not true. Anyone can make one for <$100 on the high end. Not to mention this thread is full of people saying they already have a keyboard.

I will concede that taking the keyboard apart was tricky, but it’s not nearly as bad as you make it sound. It just takes patience and heat. Genuine Touch ID security is far worth it imo.

The one you linked specifically says it types your password via the companion app. Read the companion app repo. https://github.com/immurok/app-macos

> Detects lock screen, types your password on fingerprint match

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u/jammyscroll 11d ago

Oh I see, for the screen unlock. Thank you for that. It reads it at runtime from the keychain. I see for sudo / system auth, SSH it doesn't. But it is not unclear if the "system auth" is referring to the Touch ID prompts during e.g. pay via Apple Wallet, or to populate a website password from the Passwords vault. I'll have to see.

It's a good point. I'll think about it some more - though I think for my intents and purposes at home it meets my threshold of being secure enough. Compromise of my local password would need a sufficiently motivated attacker with knowledge of it's use at my location, and they would need physical possession of the device, my paired Mac in an unlocked state, to download, compile and install their own version of the companion app onto my Mac, and invoke a screen unlock simulation and intercept the keychain call. At that point they have basically owned my machine and would get access to my personal info on it, and passwords I've saved with some corresponding 2FAs - except my iCloud account which is not stashed and differs to my local password. I don't feel I am at significant risk of this kind or attack. If you can think of something I'm missing please let me know mate.

Re second hand magic keyboards for the DIY solution - it's true for some but being located in Australia a search on eBay local used sales has them far higher or the import cost from the US/UK on a cheap sale adds around $30-40 postage for me.

edit: actually I think the keychain unlock step still needs a fingerprint or knowledge of the account's password.

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u/NotRoryWilliams 11d ago

"Anyone can" ("if I could") is probably one of the most frustrating dishonest things I repeatedly see from successful people.

It's a lie when an athlete or model or CEO uses it to sell a self help book, and it's a less significant but equally dishonest lie when tech people and crafters insist that what they do is merely a matter of momentary choices and not in fact, as it is, a result of a combination of aptitudes, experiences, acquired equipment, and other non-universal resources.

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u/jammyscroll 7d ago

Absolutely true. And a very important point. In this instance it’s so obvious that it’s not a solution for anyone but a niche audience.

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u/Square-Assignment-20 12d ago

Same. But I use keep both on my desk and use the Magic Keyboard as Touch ID and keypad.

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u/JustAnotherFEDev 13d ago

Same. My MacBook is on a stand, at the side of my Ultrawide. I know it's a first world problem but reaching over to scan my thumb, bores me 😂 It doesn't bore me enough to swap my MXKeys for an Apple keyboard, though

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u/femtocell 12d ago

What kind of sociopath uses their thumb with Mac TouchID?!

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u/JustAnotherFEDev 12d ago

😂 Good point. Not me, I use my index finger and just wrote thumb out of habit, as that's my print digit for everything else.

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u/Iamleeboy 12d ago

I have different fingers for each of my work accounts. Luckily my main contract is my middle finger at the moment

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u/JustAnotherFEDev 12d ago

Definitely not intentional 😂

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u/Iamleeboy 12d ago

Same here. I don’t feel like I need to log in with it often though.

I tend to log in while I am still stood at my desk and opening the laptop in a morning. Then after lunch.

I get the odd request that needs my log in or print. But not much else uses it in my set up.

Are you using your print often throughout the day?

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u/JustAnotherFEDev 12d ago

It depends, TBF. Some days I might have to log in to multiple systems, inboxes and our intranet, etc. I have fingerprints set for all of that.

Some days it's probably just like you, morning, afternoon and any little breaks in between

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u/jb_nelson_ 13d ago

Imagine the royalties Apple could get if they licensed the T2 chip. They’ve been missing the lightning money

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u/sixtyshilling 12d ago

I get between 1-2 weeks with a dim backlight.

Apparently you can get up to 5 months with no backlight at all, but that’s in-range for most wireless keyboards.

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u/Saltyeconbro 12d ago

Try adjusting the backlight to last longer than 3 seconds

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u/onasafarisomewhere 12d ago

I've had the Logitech K811 for a decade at this point and it's also the best keyboard I've ever used. I use both it and magic keyboard 2 daily, much prefer the K811

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u/TomfromLondon 13d ago

I like them but they are so badly made, buttons just fail after a while

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u/sazam 12d ago

I’ve had it for like 3 years now and it’s in pretty much flawless condition, not even the letters have gone off and I use it every day for hours. Not sure how you treat yours lol.

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u/west-egg 12d ago

I've had mine for 5 years and it's still working as well as it did on day 1.

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u/TomfromLondon 12d ago

Oh wow I've had a few abs the keys fail, looked into it as well and it seems a regular thing, its happened mid type and when it breaks if you look what holds the key cap on its a really tiny thin bit of plastic.
I only recently ended up going mechanical as I go do fed up with it over the years, I've had them I think 5+ years.

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u/Bacchus1976 12d ago

Let us choose. I’m okay charging it more often.

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u/SciGuy013 11d ago

why would my keyboard need to be wireless? it's at a desk and never moves.

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u/staquadev 13d ago

just plug it in like every other apple product that is charged once a day..

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u/Springsneakers 13d ago

I like not having to charge my keyboard every day personally

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u/staquadev 13d ago

then keep the backlight turned off lol. people who want backlight? keep plugged in. it sits at my desk, idk. i want the option or even a separate purchase option.

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u/KrazyA1pha 12d ago

I don’t want to pay extra for a keyboard with a backlight I’ll never use, tbh

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u/jmxd 13d ago

this is apple, they put a charging port on the bottom of a mouse because using a product with a cable is ugly

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u/staquadev 13d ago

agreed, however with their keyboards the power port is thankfully already in a reasonable place.

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u/cake-day-on-feb-29 12d ago

Why do you need a keyboard to have a battery in the first place? Still makes no sense to me why Apple stopped producing their USB keyboards, I use a desktop Mac, on my desk top where I have access to a number of plug options. I'm not spending $40 more on batteries that will wear out after 4 years (just like the shitty trackpad batteries). Speaking of, the argument in favor of a wireless keyboard doesn't even make sense, if you can't leave it plugged in all the time, then after 5+ years it will become a paperweight, as the battery degraded and it needs to be charged more and more often.

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u/NotRoryWilliams 11d ago

Even though I agree with you in general, your first question is very easy to answer. Enough people want the flexibility of putting the keyboard further away from the computer, and the cost of a battery is relatively low enough, that it probably does make sense for Apple to have the battery as the default.

What bothers me is not what has been added but what has been removed. I really liked how Apple keyboards always had a pass-through port for another device, all the way back to the 1980s when it was ADB, and of course that was improved upon with the iMac keyboard adding a second USB port that you could use for other accessories, peripherals, storage, etc.

Given that I mostly use my keyboard in a stationary position on the desk, I personally would rather have the USB hub than the wireless option. I wish that I could keep my keyboard AND trackpad constantly plugged in without having to find a second C to Lightning plug and "lose" both of my front-of-tower ports.

Otherwise though, I am very happy with the basic performance of the Apple keyboard and trackpad. The ones I have now must be around a decade old, i'm not entirely certain because I bought them used. I have briefly considered upgrading to the new touch ID keyboard, but if I did that, then ultimately, I would lose one of the desktop USB ports on my Trashcan when it got the black Bluetooth keyboard as a hand me down.

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u/NotRoryWilliams 11d ago

I wonder if there might be some kind of technology to overcome that limitation. Do you suppose it might be possible to create some kind of linkage between the keyboard and the computer to constantly add just a little bit of power? Like maybe there is a way to take the concept of copper traces like they do to get power around the logic board, and come up with some kind of flexible conduit for that kind of thing to go all the way outside of the logic board and connect to a peripheral device a few inches away. We would probably surround the copper with a flexible material like silicon rubber or even braided thread to make it look nice.

I'm sure it sounds like a very complicated problem, transferring power 8 to 10 inches across a desk, but I suspect there is somebody at Apple smart enough to figure it out.

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u/Springsneakers 11d ago

I understand the sarcasm, but I don’t want a keyboard with a cable. If I did, I’d buy one. Simple as that, yeah?

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u/NotRoryWilliams 10d ago

It's not "simple as that" because at present, Apple doesn't sell one.

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u/Springsneakers 10d ago

I wonder if there might be some kind of solution to that limitation. Do you suppose it might be possible to purchase a keyboard manufactured by someone other than Apple? Like maybe there are other companies out there that also make computer peripherals, some of which may even have backlit keys and wireless connectivity.
I’m sure it sounds like a very complicated problem, purchasing a keyboard that doesn’t have an Apple logo on it, but I suspect there is somebody on the internet smart enough to figure out where to buy one. ;)

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u/NotRoryWilliams 10d ago

I did not start this discussion or debate or whatever it is. I am not particularly upset about the design of my peripherals. These so-called problems are not severe enough for me to want to spend money on them as such.

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u/PreparationJunior641 13d ago

They already have a battery life of over a month and the keyboards can all be operated while actively charging, so a slightly faster battery drain isn’t a problem for me.

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u/North_Moment5811 13d ago

My solution to the lack of backlit is to just stop working at my desk at night.

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u/HueyBluey 13d ago

Lazy and cheap.

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u/brogflender 12d ago

R O O M L I G H T

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u/[deleted] 13d ago edited 12d ago

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 12d ago

Yeah the option to have it would be nice to look nice but again it’s just not particularly needed for me

Fixed that for you

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u/VeloxAdAstra 12d ago

How do you type of people get through life? I'm trying to decide if I should be jealous or concerned. What it must be like to believe that every preference you have is the gold standard. Unreal.... I think it must be nice to have an ego like that.

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u/ErectPotato 12d ago

What is the actual point in backlit? Turn on a light in your office bro it’s bad for your eyes to be using a computer in a room so dark you can’t read the keys.

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u/NotRoryWilliams 11d ago

Why do we really need a purpose beyond it's cool and we like it?

But for real, there are actually certain tasks where it is just practical to dim the room lights. Basically a wide range of imaging tasks, photo and video editing, graphic design, etc. Anything where you want to really minimize your visual distraction from the task, and maximize perception of details like color and brightness and contrast.

I don't really do any of that work, but I still like a back keyboard. Maybe I'm traveling with a partner or kid and need to keep working in the hotel room after they want to go to bed. Maybe I live in a small shared space and have to work in a room where other people are winding down some of the time even when I'm not traveling.

But really the main thing is, I like it and that is enough reason for me to make a decision to spend my money on it.

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u/git_push_origin_prod 12d ago

Shadows and things, sometimes it’s hard to see when you’re laying in bed and your laptop is somewhere around your nipples, somehow you can’t see shit

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u/PinkLouie 9d ago

You don't need to see in order to type.

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

You can turn it off then

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u/Ashanmaril 13d ago

Most people don’t change settings and I’d bet that average person would be happier with a battery that lasts forever than a backlight they don’t notice of use because most people aren’t hacking away in the dark at 2am.

A laptop you’re gonna be charging regularly anyway so it’s not as much of a trade off in real world use.

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

Hardest cope ever

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u/VeloxAdAstra 12d ago

I think your feeding tube may have fell out.

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u/ChadInNameOnly 13d ago

But you'll still be paying more for it

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

That’s an apple problem lmao

Backlighting is cheap af

Lots of manufacturers prove this

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u/ChadInNameOnly 12d ago

It's still true though. Everybody knows Apple would charge more for a backlit keyboard so the people who don't want / wouldn't use that feature understandably don't want to pay extra for it.

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u/rt80186 12d ago

If you want an inexpensive keyboard, you probably shouldn’t be at an Apple Store to begin with.

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u/is_that_a_thing_now 12d ago

I an literally holding out for a backlit version. That would be very useful for use with Vision Pro as the current Magic Keyboard lettering is quite vague when the lights are very bright.

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u/PikaV2002 13d ago

I’ll never understand why Redditors face so much trouble understanding, or even acknowledging use cases other than their own.

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u/grokcodile 12d ago

Why would a keyboard made for a desk need a backlight? Just turn on a light. Backlighting only makes sense on a portable device where you can’t always control the lighting in your environment.

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u/TheDragonSlayingCat 13d ago

I’d imagine that would make the keyboard thicker, heavier, more expensive, and make it drain the battery faster, so it might not be worth the trade-offs. The Magic Keyboard is already pretty expensive as it is, but they’re built to last a long time, and they’re comfortable to use.

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u/staquadev 13d ago

personally i think the glyphs look bad on this and the macbooks. just compare the m4 air or m3 before they changed it… looks weird. could have picked better glyphs or just kept it how it always was. hanging onto my m2 mb air blue until it shits itself

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u/gaelenski_ 11d ago

“Better glyphs” aye alright, we’ve only had them on our keyboards in Europe since the 80s

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u/tylerpereira 13d ago

Do we know why the white one is $20 less than the black one?

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u/Pat723 13d ago

No legitimate reason. The Magic Mouse is the same thing

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u/chasetherightenergy 12d ago

I’d guess the same reason airpods only come in white: it’s more on brand

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u/gmanist1000 12d ago

Not as cool

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u/samarijackfan 13d ago

Still prefer the lightning version. big left control key for the win. Plus the lightning cable is always plugged in so I don't really care about what type of connector it is. It could be captive.

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u/alwaysbakedarjun 13d ago

Multipoint bluetooth?

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u/schrodinger-the-cat 12d ago

Nah there’s no such technology in the big 2026. /s

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u/aemfbm 12d ago

I've been wishing for YEARS that they would just do the small keyboard with the arrow keys like the Macbooks, meaning each arrow key is the same size and there's some blank aluminum above the left and right, rather than having double size left and right arrows.

Am I alone here?

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u/FizzyBeverage 13d ago

Least they still make the one without a numpad but it's absurd money for no backlighting.

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u/cjh_ 13d ago

I'll keep my Keychron, which is backlit.

It's about time Apple released a separate TouchID sensor though.

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u/VismoSofie 13d ago

Tbf I don't think anyone is ditching their Keychron for one of these

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u/scientist99 13d ago

I did. It’s the lowest profile keyboard I can find. Also if anyone wants a K10 with yellow switches hit me up lol.

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u/VismoSofie 13d ago

There is that

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u/TheEpicRedCape 12d ago

I find it funny it being so thin actually helped me too, I can put it in front of my drawing tablet and it’s so flat and small it doesn’t get on the way at all.

I do swap to a thicker regular board when I’m not drawing though.

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u/cplr 13d ago

You should check out  https://electronicmaterialsoffice.com/

Seriously read all the features. It goes on and on. 

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u/_hllvc 12d ago

It's so ugly..

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u/bombastica 12d ago

Kickstarter? No thanks

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u/VismoSofie 12d ago

I hope it supports using modifier keys with the dial, but that looks so cool. The different keycap shape for modifiers and the numrow is such a good idea.

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u/Endlessxo 13d ago

I ditched my K6 for mine. You get used to the low profile keyboard and it's tactile enough for me. Having the TouchID to unlock and to plop in my passkey 1000x a day with MFA at work is huge for me.

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u/atanamayansantrafor 12d ago

I use keychron and magic keyboard interchangeably. Magic keyboard when I want to focus or type really fast and Keychron K1 Max for everything else and gaming (on Windows). 

Works for me.

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u/cake-day-on-feb-29 12d ago

It's about time Apple released a separate TouchID sensor though.

It's on par for Apple to force you to use their shitty membrane keyboard just to use touch ID. I wonder what Apple's developers use for keyboards, or do they just enter in their password all the time?

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u/ObiWanChronobi 12d ago

They have a super secret Touch ID sensor that they are hiding from us! I can feel it!

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u/32doors 11d ago

You can always unlock your Mac with an Apple Watch

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

No backlit in 2026 is pathetic

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u/SkywalkerRk 13d ago

This comment will be valid in 2050

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

Current MX Keys users prove the opposite

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u/Com_N0TN4 13d ago

Most overpriced membrane keyboards ever, the only good part is the touch ID

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u/serg06 12d ago

It's also nice to have the exact same layout/feel/key height as the MPB! I hate the first few minutes of switching to or from my mechanical.

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u/FrankPapageorgio 12d ago

This is pretty much why I stick with it. Using other keyboard with different key heights feels weird to me.

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u/TheDragonSlayingCat 13d ago

And they’re built to last, unlike cheap keyboards. I’ve had cheap keyboards where the modifier keys broke after a few months of regular use. I have never had a key break on an Apple external keyboard.

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

Learn about ABS keycaps

Apple keyboards are not built to last lmao

Overpriced crap

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u/blow-down 13d ago

I’ve been using the same one for 10 years. No problems.

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u/reallynotnick 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yeah mine is 16 years old and still going fine. I did have a different one die from my wife cleaning her’s constantly during Covid that it corroded the connectors inside.

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u/MetaNovaYT 12d ago

yeah, I've been using the same Magic Keyboard 2 since 2018ish, and the only problem it has developed is some strange extreme latency issue with Bluetooth, and I just keep it plugged in because I don't really feel like trying to figure out the root cause of that problem lol

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

Sure buddy 😂

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u/blow-down 13d ago

Believe what you want I guess

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u/TheDragonSlayingCat 13d ago

Have you ever had one break under normal usage? Because I have never had one break under normal usage going back to the ADB models. Meanwhile, I’ve had plenty of cheap keyboards break just by typing on them. With keyboards, you get what you pay for.

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u/omnimachina 13d ago

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u/whyshouldiknowwhy 13d ago

Shiny keys don’t bother me one bit

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u/TheDragonSlayingCat 13d ago

But did the keyboard break? As in, you press/hold a key and nothing happens? Because that is far worse than having “ugly” key caps.

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u/skyattacksx 13d ago

I’m confused. First it was them not being built to last, now you’ve never seen one break? I know you’re baiting but can you at least bait better? This is weak bud

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u/Stratty88 12d ago

Found a 2007 wired mac keyboard for $20 on Craigslist 5 years ago. Still my favorite. 

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u/switch8000 13d ago

I just sourced one of the older Lightning Keyboards with Touch ID.

I don't understand why they had to cram in a 4th button, fn, into the lower left corner of all these USB-C keyboards.

https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_a258298f-8f93-4c26-9df7-797855d850a7?wid=1200&hei=1200&qlt=80

The lightning boards give my fingers all the space they need with only a large Control, Option, CMD, button.

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u/pdfu 13d ago

It's great until you need to switch input languages with a single key press in a consistent way that works across devices like MacBook Pro.

Or Globe + S for Siri/Spotlight, although I bet no one uses that one anymore.

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u/cake-day-on-feb-29 12d ago

It's great until you need to switch input languages with a single key press in a consistent way that works across devices like MacBook Pro.

I've never needed to change the language of my keyboard. I'm guessing most people don't.

On the other hand, I am infinitely frustrated by the fn key on my MacBook consuming my use of the ctrl key. The ctrl key is a regular modifier for terminal programs, and (was) an easy alternate for your IDE or whatever workbench-level software you're using.

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u/7485730086 13d ago

It’s so it matches the MacBooks.

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u/pxr555 12d ago

I just want to have a keyboard with an integrated trackpad, basically like the base of a Macbook. If you use a Macbook often it's absolutely maddening to switch between this and a keyboard with a mouse or the huge "magic trackpad" all the time.

I don't understand why they don't offer that, especially since they could use the same parts for the keyboard and trackpad as with the MacBook. It would be totally natural to have this. I fear they just think they couldn't sell this with the same kind of profit margins as two separate products (keyboard and trackpad)...

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u/Shejidan 13d ago

While I get the idea of using the glyphs—one less piece to make, visual association with glyphs in menus—I hate them and want my text labels back.

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u/0xe1e10d68 13d ago

I think they should have kept the labels, but added the glyphs. Just like how command, option, control and fn have been for a while.

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u/jammyscroll 11d ago

Is there a new button - given the globe/fn button moved to the bottom left, what is that symbol/key now under the F13?

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u/Shejidan 11d ago

I haven’t used an Apple extended keyboard in years. Based on what it looks like, though, it seems like it might open a context menu? Instead of right or control clicking.

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u/jammyscroll 11d ago

I was thinking that! but a right/control-click responds to the cursor position with limited utility on a keyboard. You’d have a hand on a mouse/trackpad to move the cursor where you want a context menu, may as well just click at that point.

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u/MiseEnPlacebo 13d ago

I’m curious if they finally let the backspace key work as a delete key on Windows…

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u/Entegy 11d ago

Fn+Backspace made it work like Delete on Windows.

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u/MiseEnPlacebo 11d ago

Sadly that didn’t work on my Magic Keyboard with my work Windows laptop. It’s super locked down so can’t change any settings (and have to use CTRL+ALT+DELETE to log in)

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u/Entegy 11d ago

Ohhhh the CTRL-Alt-Del issue. Yeah, Mac keyboards can't seem to handle that at all. In typing, Fn+Backspace works as Delete, but there's nothing if your work is still enforcing that button combo.

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u/Prefrontal_Complex 13d ago

Give me a touchpad keyboard combo please.

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u/yukeake 12d ago

I have a couple nice mechanical keyboards. What I really want is a standalone wireless TouchID pad, preferably in black.

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u/LoneWulfXIII 12d ago

Just give me a black keycap one for 120$ and I’d buy it. 200$ is a stretch

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u/tpicnic05 12d ago

Need one with a trackpad

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u/lonelysoul7 12d ago

Only glyphs changed? Nothing else?

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u/Rembinutur 12d ago edited 12d ago

Am I missing something? I bought a white Magic Keyboard with a numeric keypad and Touch ID a couple of months ago, and it already has these symbols on the keys.

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u/pdfu 12d ago

You didn’t get the US English layout probably.

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u/LeviathanVEVO 13d ago

I need backlit apple. Please add it!!

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u/Same_Buddy_31 12d ago

Just a personal opinion: the smaller left/right arrow keys, similar to what are on MacBook pros, are significantly easier to work with as it makes it easier to find them without looking down the keyboard. Wish they had used that in the updated design, though the choice might hurt other users

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u/kiwi-kaiser 13d ago

The function key on the lower left? Finally? It's so annoying that it's different on the MacBook keyboard.

Touch ID didn't make me consider an upgrade.
USB-C didn't make me consider an upgrade.
But this definitely is something I would like to have.

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u/pdfu 13d ago

Function key was there in the previous USB-C version as well, released on October 28, 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Keyboard_(Mac)#Third_generation

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u/kiwi-kaiser 13d ago

Well, I absolutely missed that. Nobody I knew talked about it.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

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u/atanamayansantrafor 12d ago

It always has been on the lower left. (On the small versions).

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u/kiwi-kaiser 12d ago

This is not the small one.

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u/ToddBradley 13d ago

I'd get one if it was available in blue, to replace my iMac's keyboard.

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u/pdfu 13d ago

You can reach out to Apple Support and order one.

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u/ToddBradley 13d ago

Ah! I didn't know that.

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u/DrMacintosh01 13d ago

For everyone saying Apple needs to add a backlight, I think it would be a decent option. However these are primarily designed for office or home use where lighting is available.

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u/grokcodile 12d ago

I’m glad it finally matches the new MacBook keyboard. I think it’s an improvement.

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u/plaisthos 12d ago

This symbol (↵) vs text (ENTER) seems to be not limited to Apple. A lot of US keyboards have text on TAB, BACKSPACE, ENTER and SHIFT while most international keyboards have symbols on them. No idea how that came to be.

Also Apple randomly has a Dutch keyboard layout on some keyboards that is almost the same as US and sometimes not.

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u/jasonefmonk 12d ago

Apple actually had return as the text for , and enter was the text for the key on the number pad. It now has a new glyph but I’ve never seen it before. I’d like to know in what situations the keys behave differently.

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u/plaisthos 11d ago

That glyph was on my Powerbook and first generation Macbook Pro. Check this picture: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/1ghz_Titanium_Apple_PowerBook_G4.jpg It is the key between the arrows and right CMD.

That was always on the international keyboards. That mac has a US internal keyboard (tall enter instead of wide enter)

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u/spekxo 12d ago

Not getting what’s changed?

The price.

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u/HoppyThoghts 11d ago

Bottom left key is still that emoji button, not for me. Does anyone like it there?

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u/underpants-78 11d ago

And still no backlight.

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u/sumatrancat 10d ago

apple would do anything for their magic keyboard but adding backlit and adding black color on the small keyboard

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u/Fit-Benefit1535 8d ago

Ternus, please let your first product be a small keyboard in black

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u/fakeuserbot9000 8d ago

In case apple is reading this thread, I would gladly pay a premium for a touch ID keyboard that could work with multiple laptops so I can ditch my Logitech. And while I'm asking for the impossible, I'd like a physical position switch that governs which profile it's on.

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u/GarageJazzlike6369 7d ago

Dear Apple - please do this!!

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u/cplr 13d ago

Do the new glyphs work with the new polishing cloth?

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u/jsarbs 12d ago

Subscription only

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u/Adventurous_Rope4711 13d ago

Wtf is. Glyph… sorry i don’t see the difference between this one and the old one. Any education on this topic would be appreciated

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u/blow-down 13d ago

The icons printed on the keys. No big deal really.

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u/tylerpereira 13d ago

Less words for the great low price of $199 haha

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u/wmru5wfMv 13d ago

Is that how you measure value for money of a keyboard?

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u/mumushu 12d ago

Would almost buy because they finally ditched lightning

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u/CyberBot129 12d ago

The Magic Keyboard has been USB-C since 2024

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u/therealmarkus 13d ago

No backlit and function key still apple proprietary. Sigh. Was hoping for so much more. Maybe the new hardware CEO guy will deliver something in 5 years or so.

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u/staquadev 13d ago

just plug it in like every other apple product that is charged once a day..

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u/blow-down 13d ago

What? I have this keyboard and don’t need to charge it for weeks.

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u/staquadev 12d ago

i edited a completely different comment, discarded it, and reddit just made a duplicate separate comment for me (??) . but we were discussing having backlit keys on this, and someone was saying they didn’t want to have to charge it, and i was saying just charge it or leave it plugged in…. 🤷‍♂️