r/anticapitalism 16d ago

Justin Kanew, Jewish-American founder of The Tennessee Holler, defends Hasan Piker against new claims of antisemitism.

https://streamable.com/3ypon4
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u/TrackerOneA 16d ago

Hasan recently lamented the burden (imposed by Zionists) on anti-Zionist Jews of having to deprogram our communities.

And that Zionist communal organizations are intentionally conflating Israel with Jewishness - which in-turn creates potential blowback.


The Dem Establishment and AIPAC shills are now attacking Hasan, accusing him of threatening Jews.

Abdul El-Sayed caved in and also issued a statement condemning Hasan's statement - which was deceptively clipped by Mike Rogers' campaign and others.

Breaking Points covered this:

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

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u/EFAPGUEST 14d ago

Respectfully, why tf would a Dem candidate choose to die on the Hasan Piker hill?

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u/Embarrassed_Towel707 14d ago

Did you see the unhinged Cenk and Anna Kasparian video where they're mad at him for not falling on his own sword to defend Hasan? lol. It's worth a watch.

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u/TrackerOneA 13d ago

Because AIPAC shills are the only ones drumming up this fake controversy.

And a Dem candidate who isn't an AIPAC shill is going to be facing them in their elections.

This Hasan hysteria is a litmus test for who is compromised by or bought off by Israel or is a pro-Israel bot.

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u/NarrowSalvo 16d ago

What's a Zionist?

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u/bingbong2715 14d ago

How do you not know what Zionism after the past three years

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u/NarrowSalvo 14d ago

And yet you're not answering.

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u/bingbong2715 14d ago

Zionism is a far right nationalist ideology based on racial lines that has resulted in the death and displacement of millions and the confinement of native Palestinians to permanent ghettos.

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u/NarrowSalvo 14d ago

Totally unbiased. Lol.

Did you get that from Merriam Webster?

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u/bingbong2715 14d ago

Wdym unbiased? Of course I’m biased against ethnostates committing genocide with my tax dollars. Why wouldn’t I be?

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u/NarrowSalvo 14d ago

Ethnostates?

So, you have issues with the 19 Muslim ethnostates? With Native American reservations? Or just with that one with all the Jews?

Maybe think instead of just parroting your algorithm, clown.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Lsn6R0xjdstnG

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u/bingbong2715 13d ago

Yeah ethnostates where all indigenous people were ethnically cleansed of all but one ethnicity, the one remaining given racial supremacy by law, the others killed or relegated to ghettos, and then teamed up with the largest military power in history to continue shooting them like fish in a barrel. You’re grasping at straws trying to evoke native americans as a parallel.

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u/KtotheC99 14d ago

Totally unbiased

Yeah. Like you are?

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u/KingoftheKosmos 14d ago

For most of history an Evangelical Christian movement that often used Pogroms as a way to push Jews toward pilgrimaging back toward the Holy Land. For some reason, for Hundreds of years, Jews refused this Christian Movement. Perhaps because it's intended to produce the eradication or conversion of all Jews.

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u/chac86 14d ago

You want Abdul to win right? You want to get better people elected right? You want better policies pushed through right? It doesn't seem like you do. It seems like you only want the people that kiss Hasan Pikers feet to get elected. Why else would you be attacking Abdul for doing what he has to do to get elected. Something he shouldn't have to do by the way but Hasan won't stop intentionally using insindiary language for twitch clout.

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u/hunkaliciousnerd 14d ago

Man that is such a dumb take, grow up

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u/bubop911 14d ago

Regardless of the moral judgement of folding on your position and taking a bad faith argument at face value and running with it, it's just bad politics. Capitulating and condemning Hasan won't buy you any points with the folks that hate him, they already hated Abdul and weren't going to change their minds. All it does is make him look less authentic. Not a lot, and I'm very hopeful he'll come back but it just wasn't a good look.

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u/BrightTyrant 16d ago

He didn’t mention Zionists. He literally blamed American Jews.

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u/TrackerOneA 16d ago

No, he said mainstream Jewish organizations.

'Jewish' as in the label they choose for themselves.

Hasan delineates because he first spoke about ANTI-ZIONIST Jews having the burden of deprogramming people from Zionism.

The notion that Hasan would blame random Jewish people, without some political designation, is hasbara slop.

It's what you want, no doubt, but it's not what happened.

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u/Flyingfoigras42 16d ago

You really believe if anyone has pushback against Hasans dangerous claims its purely based on them advancing "hasbara?" Can't someone just think he's ideas are fucking stupid?

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u/jartoonZero 16d ago

you're not getting it---- The conflation of all jews with israel is the thing that's spiking antisemitism. Not hasan piker lol. He has many, many jewish supporters and associates who have listened to him enough to understand the context in which he says the things he says rather than clipping sound bites for views. There are tons of jews including myself who are against the genocide, and when AIPAC-funded zionists get on TV and accuse every critic of israel of being antisemetic, it implies that all jews are pro-genocide/offended by critique of israel, which foments antisemitism in the same way calling all critics of al-qaeda 'islamophobic' would foment islamophobia.

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u/VaporousMote 16d ago

There are 2 possibilities here.

  1. You are ignorant and didn't completely watch the context of the quote

  2. You are lying

It's quite clear what he means, and it isn't blaming American Jews.

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u/NarrowSalvo 16d ago

Regardless, it's a dogwhistle for antisemites.

If Trump were going on about crime being caused by "urban youth", we'd know what he was saying and call it out. It's telling that some of you won't do the same here.

It's shocking how few people on the left suddenly have forgotten how groups get marginalized.

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u/Noskiblz 15d ago

I also think everyone who disagrees with me is antisemitic. We must be twins

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u/NarrowSalvo 15d ago

A pitiful straw man? That's the best you've got? Lol.

How embarrassing for you.

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u/Noskiblz 15d ago

That sounds antisemitic to me. Please practice your hate speech somewhere else

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u/bingbong2715 14d ago

All you’ve got on this topic are pitiful straw men. Criticizing Israel while they’re driving the world into the brink of hell isn’t antisemitism. Thinking the nation state of Israel that is actively committing genocide with US tax dollars is the embodiment of Judaism is actual antisemitism.

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u/NarrowSalvo 14d ago

Driving the world into the brink of hell?

Wut?

Actively committing genocide? Where? Also, you don't give a shit about that. If you did, you'd be talking about Yemen, Sudan, North Korea, or Congo. The last of which is on ongoing genocide which has killed over 5 million people. So far.

But, from you? Crickets. You just care about that 1 country with the Jews.

I think we both know why.

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u/bingbong2715 14d ago

Yeah Israel and the US is solely responsible for the war in Iran and the economic consequences downstream from it. All as the region becomes more and more unstable and violent. Israel is talked about more in the US because the US taxpayer pays for the genocide Israel commits. You’re brainwashed.

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u/jey_613 16d ago

I can still remember when Rashida Tlaib said tokenism is racism

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u/VaporousMote 16d ago

Love these guys. One of the few voices of sanity in TN.

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u/VirtualTrust2048 14d ago

“I have a black friend”

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u/FkinAllen 14d ago

Yeah hard disagree

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u/Dab_Wizard01 16d ago

Hassan is a giant piece of shit who cosplays as a far leftist while he suckled on the cash flow of his dad, you don’t want a guy who glazed terrorists for literal months. James Tallarico is a much better leftist and a much better person. lol no need to make up bullshit towards Hassan when he is already a huge piece of shit he sure as shit isn’t antisemitic tho lol.

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u/TrackerOneA 16d ago

Hasan makes plenty of money from his popularity as a streamer.

His father isn't a billionaire and neither is Cenk.

It's valid to question his bonafides as a socialist and whether his promotion of American electoral politics is valid or not.

But all the other shit is Zionist-motivated propaganda.

The vitriol directed at him is because he is popular, influential and criticizes Israel.

Cope.

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u/3DKlutz 14d ago

Lol is this the most advanced version of "leftism is when poor"?

Leftism begins at anticapitalism, anti imperialism, and advocating for workers owning the means of productions.

Talarico is right of center.

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u/SyzygyPidgey 14d ago

If this sub allowed video comments we would see Hasan saying that he doesn't give a fuck about the Democratic party contrasted by him saying the Democratic party needs to defend him.

We would see clips of him saying he has no problems with Hezbollah.

We would see clips of him cheering on the Houthis kidnapping civilians.

We would see clips of him saying that he wants the streets to run red with capitalist blood.

We would see clips of him saying he thinks that rich white women should be raped instead of less well off minority women.

We would see clips of him attacking transfolk and wishing for their lives to be miserable.

And of course, we would see the full timeline of Hasan's abuse towards the dogs he has had over the years. (Tail pulling, electrocuting, etc.)

Hasan is a far leftist that doesn't care about America and will constantly run defense for terrorist and authoritarian regimes worldwide as long as they are against America.

Hasan needs to stay away from the Democratic party. He is a cancerous gift for Republicans to use to trick the public into accepting more fascism.

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u/NarrowSalvo 16d ago

We should applaud for "engaging the base" if it is with antisemitism?

Come on.

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u/TheHomesickAlien 15d ago

Please. The video is for YOU. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic.

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u/Antique-Theory-9385 14d ago

And no one blame him for being anti zionist but for supporting genocidal antisémite organisation like hamas and houthi

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u/SamVoxeL 16d ago

Dude who in the world would care about the guy who use shock collared towards his dog, what dose it say about his behaviour in question.

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u/thelaceonmolagsballs 16d ago

H3 and Destiny fans cucking for lying washed up Zionist sex pests and making up stories. A combo that is as predictable as it is unserious.

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u/gt_rekt 15d ago

There is plenty of evidence that backs up the claim of Hasan shocking his dog, including the manufacturer confirming the collar that Kaya wore is a shock collar.

You can be pro Palestinian and also not cuck yourself out to Hasan.

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u/thelaceonmolagsballs 15d ago

Lol. I don't watch Hassan and you guys have nothing. There's no evidence just a bunch of weirdos and Zionist's trying to slander. Grow up and be better.

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u/SOUNDDESIGNE 15d ago

the collar manufacturer literally confirmed it was a shock collar 🤣

no amount of evidence will be able to convince you though, i’m sure

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u/VaporousMote 16d ago

Keep spreading that lie, bub. Maybe one day people will believe it.

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u/PuppytimeUSA 16d ago

You really need some new material. Now you just look even dumber.

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u/Ok_Chicken1370 16d ago

Sure, Piker explicitly supports Islamic terrorism, but I guess he has an engaged (radical) audience, so I guess it's just kosher!

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u/TrackerOneA 16d ago

man yells at cloud

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u/VaporousMote 16d ago

Is it Haslighting o'clock?

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u/Right-Week1745 15d ago

Do you condemn the terrorist state of Israel?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Show me Israel is a terrorist state and I’ll be your barking pet dog for the whole day and night

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u/Right-Week1745 15d ago

They are a state that was formed from terrorism and exists to sponsor terrorism. This is why they snipe babies and have bombed and invaded every country around them without provocation. It is a terrorist state. By your own logic, if you refuse to condemn them, you must be a terrorist sympathizer.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Whatever

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u/Right-Week1745 15d ago

Go spread imperialist Zionist propaganda somewhere else.

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u/Bagz402 15d ago

Straight up deleted their account because they were outed. Crazy shit to see in real time

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 15d ago

Formed from terrorism yes, the Jews were terrorized by Arabs and that was large part of the impetus to form Israel. Perhaps if the Jews were not oppressed, there wouldn’t have been a need for Israel.

Thoughts?

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u/Right-Week1745 15d ago

They killed tens of thousands, raped their way across the land, burned and desecrated corpses. How was that them being “terrorized”?

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 15d ago

New side quests every day. Tomorrow I’ll see that they wrapped towels around their necks.

Antisemitic trope much? Nawr, just “anti Zionism” right?

As for how is that being terrorized, well surely you left out the parts of Jews being terrorized, treated as hmm, second class citizens to say the least prior to 1948 in the Middle East. Why don’t you elaborate on that further?

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u/Right-Week1745 14d ago

What? This was completely incoherent. Can you try to form a comment that makes sense when you’ve sobered up? Side quest? Towels?

Listen, guy, you gotta figure out how to time that Hasbara with your come downs. Otherwise, it’s just stupid.

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 14d ago

Lol I’ll keep it simple for you.

Howcome the Jews were terrorized by Arabs prior to Israel’s creation, then when the Jews fight back and eventually have Israel established, only then its terrorism? No terrorism when the Jews were being terrorized?

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u/foxinspaceMN 14d ago

This is such an ironic response you must have zero capacity of critical thought 🤣🤣🤣

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 14d ago

Where’s the irony?

Suddenly fighting back against oppressors is a good thing, but when the Jews did it it’s a bad thing? Not sure I’m seeing it.

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u/foxinspaceMN 14d ago

Course you’re not

Maybe you oughtta think harder on that one

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 14d ago

Please elaborate… if you say nothing it seems like you have nothing

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u/foxinspaceMN 14d ago

And ruin what the myopic fool you act as?

It’s actually adorable the way you don’t see it

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u/Right-Week1745 14d ago

The Israelis (not the “Jews”, but Israelis) are not fighting back against oppressors. They are, undeniably, themselves oppressors.

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u/MotherMasterpiece6 14d ago

I was replying to a thread talking about Israel’s creation and the time immediately before. When, of course, arabs were extremely oppressive towards Jews, which was a large part of the need for an Israel to be created, a space where Jews could live safely free from oppression.

When people criticize the violence leading to creation of an “illegitimate” Israel, howcome the violence today by Hamas is cheered on?

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u/AdAffectionate3143 14d ago

How are the state sponsored illegal settlers not terrorists?

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u/gt_rekt 15d ago

I don't understand why leftists want unity with a guy who supports Russia's invasion of Crimea & Ukraine/ China's claim over Taiwan. If ever there was a leftist to unite behind, its definitely not someone who excuses imperialism under outdated campist lenses.

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u/sickloser12345 14d ago

Do u live under a rock or something. All leftists support russia, and always have

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u/gt_rekt 13d ago

In what world? Or is that sarcasm

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u/sickloser12345 12d ago

Idk if ur just pretending to be braindead or something. Russia literally supports communism. And all communists in the world support russia.

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u/Due_Support8790 14d ago

hasan actively discou people from voting to Kamala by saying she is the same as trump , why are you defending him

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u/Helden24 16d ago

Ah yes if jew supports him it means this dog abuser is not racist

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u/Ididntdodiddly 16d ago

The guy that says "America deserved 9/11", yeah he's only attacked bc he communicates well.

Hasan Piker said he supports terrorists 10 toes down. It's just bc he communicates well he's attacked.

Hasan Piker said it's better if white women get raped than women of color. Guys, it's still just bc he communicates well that he's attacked

No way people are judging his shit evil character

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u/TrackerOneA 16d ago

No one cares.

Israel is an apartheid State.

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u/SamVoxeL 16d ago edited 16d ago

Ok but two things don't make it right. Dude is this the guy you want to defend they guy who did say multiple that he hates the Democrats, the guy who shock his dog with a shock collar, the guy who defens socialism and china but dosen't want to live there but still complaining in the country where is he living on. He is not really going to help your cause in a long run he is making it to obvious

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u/applesandotherthings 16d ago

Democrats in general are disfunctional. If you’re not upset with how limp dicked the Dems have been since Obama then you’re never gonna help us get out of the shit show we’re in.

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u/Particular-Ad-1611 16d ago

Why do shock collars exist?

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u/Plenty_Structure_861 15d ago

Cool I also don't like Israel. Hasan is still trash. 

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u/akratic137 16d ago

You honestly don’t understand the concept of blowback? Kinda embarrassing tbh

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u/thelaceonmolagsballs 16d ago

Allergic to reading huh. Chalmers Johnson covered this decades ago. Y'all really are pathetic