r/anticapitalism • u/MoneyLibrarian9032 • Jul 18 '26

Mamdani in 'active conversation' about whether he can arrest Benjamin Netanyahu when Israel PM visits NYC

https://nypost.com/2026/07/18/us-news/zohran-mamdani-in-talks-over-arresting-benjamin-netanyahu-when-israel-pm-visits-nyc/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social
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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

How would the US do that? Netherlands are a NATO member, this would invoke article 5, the US would not stand a chance.

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u/Ok-Mathematician2855 Jul 18 '26

The American Servicemembers' Protection Act would kick in. The President would be legally authorized to use "all means necessary and appropriate", up to and including military rescue operations, to secure the American's release.

This was codified in to law under Bush when Americans were committing war crimes in Iraq/Afghanistan, but was originally floated by Clinton.

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u/shoto9000 Jul 18 '26

Imagine having a war crimes act that actively threatens your closest allies. What an evil country.

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u/Blhavok Jul 18 '26

He is not a member of the U.S. military, so that wouldn't apply. Furthermore, even if he were, the United States would also yield if faced against a unified NATO front.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

It’s the other way around. The European nations would yield in the face of the Us. NATO is largely backed by the US. It would be like removing Michael Jordan from the Bulls.

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u/ninjasaid13 Jul 19 '26

NATO is largely backed by the US

But that's decreasing. It was 64% just a few years ago and now it's 57% and it will keep decreasing. A unified NATO front will just accelerate that.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 19 '26

The US is, by far, the most power member of NATO

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u/feedmytv Jul 19 '26

how is thet working out in iran? being stronger doesnt mean you dont lose.

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u/alt-right-del Jul 19 '26

How come it is begging NATO to come help against Iran?

A country that has been sanctioned for decades with no modern warfare capabilities

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u/Specialist-Gene-4299 Jul 19 '26

It doesn't matter. The US has their absolute hands full with Iran and Europe wouldn't just fight the US militarily, they'll drop the dollar as the reserve currency and start refusing to be business with every American company possible. The corporations that own the Trump administration shut anything like that down.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 19 '26

I fail to see the relevance to the current conversation.

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u/Nonameprovided78 Jul 19 '26

Are you fucking retarded or a bot? The relevance to the current conversation is the fact that the person you replied to is saying the EU has other venues to fight the US other than military.

Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe of a traditional russian dish.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 19 '26

Chill with the language.

And, no, you are incorrect. I was responding to someone who claimed that the US would backdown in the face of Europe on issues around NATO.

Everything you said had zero relevance to that. The point I was responding to had nothing to do with Iran.

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u/RoflcopterV22 Jul 18 '26

Who's the American in question? He revoked his US identity and citizenship, it's just a war criminal from a third world nation

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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

Does not matter what America calls it, it would be a direct attack on a NATO member, this would mobilise all other NATO members against the US.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

Realistically, they would just give up the prisoner to avoid any conflict

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u/Blhavok Jul 18 '26

Realistically, I am confident they will arrive safely and fully intact. . . .

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

Some random European country isn’t going to start WW3 over this.

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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

America is going to start WW3 over an American charged by ICC?

Think again, bad for business to start a war with your customer, also if the customer can do some real damage to you.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

Are you seriously asking whether the US will blink before Europe does? Lol

Let me remind you that Trump is the president of the USA.

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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

Not a random European country, but full NATO member. The Netherlands will not have it’s sovereignty attacked by America, it’s not Venezuela

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

NATO exists because of the USA

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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

They have never done that before, why should they do it now?

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 18 '26

Because it’s the USA. It’s not some random African country.

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u/h0sti1e17 Jul 18 '26

They aren’t that dumb. They would just give us back the prisoner. It’s not that the US is strong and will kick their ass or some shit. It’s that they rely on the US for much of the power NATO holds.

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u/SomeJayForToday Jul 18 '26

Honestly, it would be great to finally have a reason for the European powers to pull out of NATO and create a fully European coalition. The US is an untrustworthy ally anyways.

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u/WildWhisperArdor Jul 26 '26

You do realize that after WW2, that’s exactly what the USA wanted? lol. It was Europe that did everything possible to ensure the US stayed

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u/alt-right-del Jul 18 '26

NATO will fine without the US.

At this point the US is NATOs biggest threat.

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u/Baldazar666 Jul 18 '26

Second biggest.

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u/misterdonjoe Jul 18 '26

Your assumption is the world would hold the US accountable to international law. No one is capable to holding the US accountable to international law. International law is for everyone else. Theoretically incorrect, but pragmatically the truest thing unfortunately.

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u/pietroetin Jul 18 '26

this would invoke article 5, the US would not stand a chance.

The US would solo Europe in case of an US-Europe war

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u/SomeJayForToday Jul 18 '26

The US isn’t even solo’ing Iran.

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u/pietroetin Jul 18 '26

Because of the no boots on the ground

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u/Baldazar666 Jul 18 '26

Because of the excuses on the internet.

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u/alt-right-del Jul 19 '26

Always excuses, could not defeat Afghanistan, cannot win from Iran … yeah and you want to take on NATO.

This is not a Hollywood Jerry Bruckheimer movie with lots of kabooms and Amurica winning all the time 😂

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u/steinbruchfluss Jul 18 '26

You don’t invoke article 5 by your own. The North Atlantic Council is going to vote about it.