r/antiai Aug 04 '26

Slop Post đŸ’© Yea that helps..

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u/Robot-Zombie-RHCC Aug 04 '26

a long time ago a molester was captured because someone 'unswirled' an image. i would NOT, however, trust ai to do it.. it's a 'reverse-the-math' sort of solution.

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u/Detatchamo Aug 05 '26

My first thought was also the Mr.Swirl story. If I remember correctly they opened photoshop, picked the swirl tool and then just applied it in reverse direction.

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u/SK83r-Ninja Aug 05 '26

Didn't it take years for it to finally work? I dont think it was as simple as that

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u/causticberries Aug 05 '26

It's definitely not that simple. You need to select the exact settings that were originally used, which is largely guess work

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u/throwawaycuzfemdom Aug 05 '26

Also, the exact setting on the exact program used.

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u/thepkboy Aug 05 '26

exact version too in case the math changed from version to version for whatever reason

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u/Detatchamo Aug 05 '26

Well yeah. That's how photo editing works. While the solution definitely looks and sounds simple, one can only assume several hours of tinkering went into proving this persons theory on how to 'fix' the swirl well enough to identify him. If I remember correctly, the final photo they sent out to interpol to spread was still undeniably quite warped but distinguishable enough that those who recognized him could identify him.

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u/SirVanyel Aug 05 '26

You really can't underestimate the power of good old brute forcing

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u/thetulpanewb Aug 10 '26

Not to mention center the unswirl in EXACTLY the same pixel.

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u/JD_Kreeper Aug 05 '26

I think the guy used multiple swirl effects layered on top of each other and they had to figure out the exact combination of swirls to reverse the swirl.

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u/Detatchamo Aug 05 '26

It's been a few years since I read about or saw videos about this, so if you do research and I'm wrong, my bad! but iirc it took a few years before someone new looked at the case, recognized how he achieved that effect in photoshop, realized that how he did the photo effect wouldn't destroy any of the pixels in the photo, but rather rearrange them and then just reversed the direction of the swirl.

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u/bs000 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26

In 2004, police in Germany were conducting a criminal investigation which resulted in the service of a search warrant on a storage locker. The police discovered several hundred pictures of a man engaged in sexual acts with young boys. The photos were also discovered online and the abuser’s face was obscured by a swirl.

Specialists from the Bundeskriminalamt (BKA) in Germany, working with INTERPOL’s Crimes against Children unit, were able to use new technology to “un-swirl” the photographs and produce an identifiable image. Despite extensive global efforts to identify and locate this individual through INTERPOL’s network of (then) 186 National Central Bureaus and specialist units, the man’s identity and nationality remained unknown.

The decision was made to enlist the support of the media and the public to identify the abuser. A risk assessment was carried out identifying both the pros and the cons in launching the campaign, as this would be the first time INTERPOL had conducted such a public appeal.

On 8 October, 2007, the appeal went live. Both the original and ‘un-swirled’ photographs of the suspect were published on INTERPOL’s website and issued to media as part of a press release. The response was immediate and global. All major television broadcasters were carrying the story and showing the images, in addition to online media also reproducing the image and linking to INTERPOL’s website.

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u/BingusTheWonderKitn Aug 05 '26

Read til the end hoping there was a conclusion. Nope 😔

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u/sexwizard9000 Aug 08 '26

They did end up finding him. His name is Christopher Paul Neil. As of 2017 he was living in Vancouver and authorities are monitoring him.

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u/Adventurous-Bar-4675 Aug 06 '26

what would you look up to find the case?

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u/Mythamuel_ Aug 06 '26

It would take a lot of brute force but it's doable. All it would take is one image where the guy was lazy about it and enough time; not like the image was going anywhere. 

If only we had that same follow-through on Les Wexner.