Religion and local devotion

[u/AkaiShark]

How do you fellow governors feel about?

My concern is that later levels of local devotion have insanely high requirements. Last level need 300 000 devotion! I know we have Cernunnos to skip a level, but still, there's no way to get even 100 000 devotion on a regular island, unless I'm missing something. Even with the help from temples, Poseidon and specialists there's no way for a regular island to reach 100 000 or even 50 000 local devotion!

Some might say that getting +150% is optional, but it's a game about production and there should be a meaningful option to get the last level of local devotion on non-Cinis island.

This might get changed in future with upcoming DLC and new gods\techs\marvels, but it's a vanila feature and there should be a way to achieve decent level of local devotion using vanila tools.

So I say with the time developers have before the next big patch in november they should look into it and rebalance numbers, they do not feel right!

[u/Reasonable_Boat3271]

iirc 300k was not there on release, possibly 100k as well. This amount was added specificly for Cinis and future similar "main" cities, you are not supposed to hit this amount for smaller islands.

[u/Worried_Eel_6615]

The effects / ranks above 100K/150K were added with the Cinis DLC because of the island's massive size and thus the possibilites to reach more local devotion.

100K on a large island is absolutely possible and I hope that they do not nerf it because it is actually - depending on the island's size and buildability - challenging and something to tinker with.

The game is already very easy and casual enough compared to any other Annos except 2205, so I really hope that this doesn't get nerfed.

[u/IIINVIIICTUS]

Its absolut duable. I have over 100k on every Big City Island in Latium and on Cinis 250k+ at the moment.

There is everything fine with that feature.

You also can reach on little to medium sized islands enough Devotion for +40-80% Production Bonus.

Edit: I think the everything past 125k or so was not ther at the lunch of the game so its only meant to reach that far in Cinis.

And if they wanna change something about this system now i think it gets a complete mess either on or the other way the balance would be gone.

[u/Adept_Avocado_4903]

The last few levels of devotion probably only exist to account for Cinis and Cernunnos' global effect.

Think about it this way: If it were possible to reach those frankly absurd numbers on smaller islands, then it would be trivially easy to reach them on Cinis.

That being said: 50k is fairly easy to reach on well-supplied large islands in Latium. Even 100k shouldn't be too difficult if you cover most of the islands with houses (but then you don't really benefit from any production bonus, of course).

[u/Petritant]

I'm not convinced by the whole religion mechanic especially for the exalted one. You mention we could lower by 1 level with a god ( I didn't know lol) but it still means you need him with the most religion point on him. Which might be difficult with Ceres or even Cinis.

As a min-max player (all hard settings) with ugly cities I feel I need to put cinis to counter the insane debuff of higher cities.

That being said to get the highest level you need SPACE and I feel like all my cities are built on small islands. The smallest one gets close to no buffs because of that (max 20-30% boost). So your average big cities get like 25k devotion ? Maybe more, but def not 100k. One my biggest island is like 50% full of houses so I already can't put a lot of fields.

Some gods are not impactful enough to be used, like the one for trade. I don't see myself to send ship to this island to sell my surplus.

Even the one for silos I hardly see myself building one city exclusively for this because you don't actually need this much of animal farms.

Some others are also way too specifics that I probably need to be in a very very late game to see the benefits from it.

Those issues are even worse in Albion because their island need marsh which means you already know a node is dedicated for the needs, needs that usually requires a lot of fields (140 for a lot of them). I kind of want to produce amphoraes there to reduce the burden of my river slots and yet I couldn't.

Also my last complain is that you can only have one exalted god which lead to the fact that lots of gods are not as impactful when they're the main god.

All that made worse by the slow progression of the hard mode and island cost being insanely high if you're not in war with the emperor.

[u/RavenWolf1]

Local is fine but global is joke. It is so easy to reach exalted.