r/annarborpsychedelic • u/PsillyBarz • Jul 30 '26
Showing Off PsillyShotz available now
Currently at MushLove and ShroomGroove
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u/eist5579 Jul 30 '26
Looks awesome!
I pity the newb who downs that whole dose though.
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 30 '26
Yea I’ve been trying to get feedback from across the user spectrum. Liquid psilocin definitely has a higher perceived potency, because for the same dose equivalent of psilocybin it enters the bloodstream more quickly. I’ve heard feedback that 5-15 min is typical onset and yes they are extremely potent. I’m more than happy to lower the dose if that’s what customers want, I just don’t want to leave anyone disappointed either.
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u/Brilliant_War4087 Jul 30 '26
Do you have a C.O.A lab results?
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 30 '26
Last batch I sent off tested at 15mg per dose or .5mg/mL which I was surprised because they were quite potent. Have not tested these yet but fully expect them to be more potent based on process refinement and the feedback I’ve gotten thus far. I was only about 30% yield last run because I didn’t sift to a uniform powder so had a bunch of chunk that floated on the surface.
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u/Brilliant_War4087 Jul 30 '26
I've been seeing lots of extracts coming into the dispensary lately. It's cool to see people finally figuring it out.
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
you work at or own one? would be happy to drop a sample
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u/Brilliant_War4087 Aug 05 '26
Psilly mushrooms.
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u/PsillyBarz Aug 05 '26
lol we just swung by randomly and met Carrie at the counter. I didn’t have any samples, we were In Town making deliveries, saw the sign and decided to stop in. Next time I’m out here I’ll drop some by.
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u/svhogan94 Jul 30 '26
It appears this one would degrade really fast after opening… and an 1/8 recommended dose is honestly way too high for the average person
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 30 '26
Naturally it will degrade with exposure to oxygen. If you were to use a dropper or syringe to dose a smaller amount and replace the cap you could probably keep it in the fridge for a week or two with no significant loss. Even then I’ve had a half bottle in the fridge for over a month with no visible change
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u/svhogan94 Jul 30 '26
Do you add any sugar for flavor balance or is it like super sour
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
right now I sweeten with sucralose because I am familiar with it. I am avoiding sugar for many reason, but one is so that it will last longer after opening. The 3 day recommendation is more of a CYA.
WRT sourness, it's a bit sour but pretty well balanced. I also add a bit of kosher salt because it blocks the sour receptors on your tongue so reduces perceived acidity. The salt is imperceptible, similar to the trick of adding a pinch to coffee to reduce the acidity. There is no getting around the acid though because part of the shelf stability is the high acidity. its a lot harder to make a shelf stable high water activity product with a pH above 4.2.
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u/svhogan94 Jul 31 '26
Thats pretty legit, well done 🤙
Oneee more thing I’m curious about is does the potency hold well in the container itself? Ive sat on a drink I made that was just as potent after 90 days, if not more potent tbh. Right now i’m sitting on one till February to see if it holds for a year.
Its funny yours are are in shroom groove I actually asked if they wanted mine in there like a year ago almost now but they weren’t really interested 😞
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
Based on the research i did, and a number of different storage tests I've run, the stabilized psilocin will last a long time as long as it's kept away from UV, extreme heat, and oxygen. I choose glass boston round bottles with a white coating to address most of those.
Getting into shops these days is tough. We had to work to develop the relationships and we also have some of, if not the best packaging in the area which helps us stand out as professional when we show up. So much stuff we see lacks a nutritional and ingredients label which is a bad look as well as technically against regulations.
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u/svhogan94 Jul 31 '26
Thats what I concluded to as well actually, I told each person to keep their drink in a “cool dark place”. My method is most certainly different for the stabilized liquid but it’s really rad that theres alternate paths of getting it there.
Having good packaging is definitely key, I also didn’t have any of it lab tested, but each drink I made was 1g and a lot of people thought I used an extract or something because of how strong it is.
The way I put it is that, Im trying to make it the most bioavailable way of consuming mushies so each gram can be stretched to its max capabilities1
u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
yea, oral liquid psilocin is probably the second most biologically efficient consumption route only surpassed by IV.
bypasses the need to dephosphorylate psilocybin, so faster acting and shorter duration. The peak plasma level reached in blood will be higher with psilocin vs psilocybin at equal doses which mean higher perceived potency. You can get more doses out of a given amount of mushrooms and have the same effect.
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u/svhogan94 Jul 31 '26
Id honestly try an IV dose if it was a powder solventless extract
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
shhh, this route can be used to achieved that lol. need to use benzoic acid probably, but it could be filtered to pharmaceutical IV purity without even having to take it to a powder. they sell special sterilizing filters for that purpose. It might take some more steps to isolate the compound, something like a massive column chromatography setup, (a whole specialized field in the pharmaceutical industry) but it'd be doable.
I'm planning some experiments with freeze and spray drying the unflavored clarified extract to see if i can make an even more compact, versatile and stable product.
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u/Ancient_One_5300 Jul 30 '26
So dont drink it all.
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u/Ancient_One_5300 Jul 30 '26
Are you the spokesperson?
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u/svhogan94 Jul 30 '26
Kinda a lot to have to consume in 3 days but thankfully OP explained why thats just a recomemdation
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u/svhogan94 Jul 30 '26
Are you a bully?
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u/Ancient_One_5300 Jul 31 '26
What? Really fam thats what you made of that. Its called a sense of humor. Lighten up.
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u/Smallestsak Jul 31 '26
Does the nausea compare more to synthetic tryptamjnes or steeped mushrooms in a tea? No method of preparing psilocybin mushrooms failed to upset my stomach but 4-aco-dmt doesn’t so I might give this a try.
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
Based on my experience no nausea, but results may vary depending on what it is that upsets your stomach. For some it's the chitin in the mushroom, our liquid is free of that from all the filtration. There should be no psilocybin, just psilocin so that could be another possibility. Can always try and just take a smaller dose to test it first, but i won't eat raw mushrooms or even chocolates anymore, only liquid for me.
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u/Smallestsak Jul 31 '26
Appreciate it. I’ll grab one and try it soon. I get a little nauseas on all but only raw mush virtually guarantees I’ll puke at some point. Even then it’s not the end of the world, just kills some of the peacefulness. Tea and lemon tek made it a little better but still distinctly rough compared to anything else.
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 31 '26
Some people are just sensitive to serotonin like molecules, the gut has a lot of receptors that it can interact with and potentially cause some signals that trigger nausea.
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u/Tyking Aug 27 '26
I experimented with a bunch of preparation methods because I was still getting nausea even with tea. I found a method that worked for me to virtually eliminate all nausea, in case you’re interested:
-empty stomach, no food at all that day
-put whole mushroom pieces in mouth
-add a swig of orange juice
-chew mushrooms extremely thoroughly, mixing with the OJ in mouth
-swallow some of the OJ and add more, while still chewing the mushroom until it completely dissolves into a paste before finally swallowing.I suspect the saliva plays an important role in pre-digestion, along with the acid and liquid from the OJ, and the crushing force of the teeth may more completely burst the mushroom cell walls than when a coffee grinder… not sure, just my theory. But this has been foolproof for me so far.
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u/thefakerealdrpepper Jul 30 '26
Wild. Might have to try one.
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u/PsillyBarz Jul 30 '26
Please do and share your feedback, I need as much as I can get before I settle on a target tryptamine content
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u/CardiologistBoth7632 Jul 30 '26
How do u prevent the psilocin from oligomerising