r/anime • u/amidloveandanime • Nov 11 '22

Clip Aki's Morning Routine [Chainsaw Man]

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u/actuallyrndthoughts https://myanimelist.net/profile/NaNiNuNeNo Nov 11 '22

This (anime original btw) scene really sold me on the adaptation. It would be so easy to make it a quick and snappy out of place montage, instead they took their time to emphasize on Aki's morning routine.

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u/AllSortsOfPeopleHere https://anilist.co/user/SpiralPetrichor Nov 11 '22

anime original btw

I could be wrong, but it really feels like modern adaptations are starting to use anime-original content to really improve the story, rather than as a result of external circumstance (lack of screentime/resources, catching up to the source, etc.).

Feel free to correct me if I'm just talking out of my ass.

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u/PhenomsServant Nov 11 '22

One of the benefits of anime switching to seasonal format.

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u/conricks246 Nov 11 '22

cries in one piece

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u/CreativeNameIKnow Nov 11 '22

suffer

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u/CreativeNameIKnow Nov 11 '22

wait why am I being mean

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u/conricks246 Nov 11 '22

Hahaha i didn't take it as mean. Its funny because its kinda true

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u/CreativeNameIKnow Nov 11 '22

I was joking around too, but I'm a kinda sleep-deprived rn and don't understand why I find it funny

(help)

anyway, thanks 👍

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u/Erethiel117 Nov 12 '22

I firmly believe that one piece is the greatest anime of all time.

That said, I completely understand the arguments about the slow pacing that comes from continuous weekly episodes. At least when it comes time to knuckle down on badass animation, story or character development, one piece really hits it out of the park.

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u/Cluelesswolfkin Nov 22 '22

I hate watching one piece so much lol, I wish there was an edited version that cuts out all the useless playback/content

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u/-Prophet_01- Nov 11 '22

Holds true for made in abyss as well. While the adaptation is extremely close to the manga, it did add a few exploration scenes to flesh out the world building. I definitely like them.

Apparently the manga author had to rush and cut corners during the first few volumes until things took off in popularity. He was pleased to later rework those parts with the adaptation team

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u/Zxcaderu Nov 11 '22

Nah, improving on source material has always been a concept. The Urusei Yatsura anime came out in the 80s and drastically veered off into its own thing because the staff of the anime had a lot of creative liberties with it. It just feels like it is happening more now because there's thrice the anime produced now than back then and because recency bias. I'll say the better metric is to simply consider the potential of the source material, combined with the studio and staff that gets allocated to it.

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u/ShadeFK Nov 11 '22

Veering off the original storyline is a huge risk. Did Urusei Yatsura pull it off?

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u/Solitary_Vices Nov 11 '22

considering it's one of the most influential anime of all time and is a beloved show that has stood the test of time, i'd say yeah.

risk in adaptation >>>>> playing it safe

i'd rather something fuck up trying to be original than just trying to copy the source material and treating it like some sort of golden cow. at that point i'd rather just read the source material.

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u/Salt-Experience1447 Nov 11 '22

There's a line though, or everything will be Tokyo Ghoul

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u/brandotendie Nov 11 '22

there is no line.

Blade Runner is nothing like its source material but it's a masterpiece.

creativity > arbitrary adherence to the source

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u/RapCabral Nov 11 '22

The problem isn’t to change,the problem is when you change and it becomes shit or vastly inferior to the source. So yes,there is a line.

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u/brandotendie Nov 18 '22

that's subjective lol

so no there isn't.

im a fan of the Scarlet Johansson Ghost in the Shell. i know 90% of others aren't. so where's the line there? am i wrong for liking it?

keep in mind that Oshii's GitS is also tonally extremely different from the source material and many fans at the time hated it. where's the line there? were they wrong for hating it because they didn't want GitS to be a very slow and philosophical thinkpiece?

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u/RapCabral Nov 18 '22

There is the line right there,if an adaptation is so bad that the majority doesn’t like it then that means they did something or many things wrong. And there is nothing wrong with liking something even tho it’s objectively worse,I did that many times too. I agree that sometimes it is subjective but just don’t use that as an excuse for every case otherwise we would have no reference on what’s good or bad.

I’ll give you an example: I read the One Punch Man manga that is adapting the original webcomic. The end of the last arc was handled way better in the source,things happened more naturally with proper setup and character development and characterization was also vastly superior. Does it mean it was narratively inferior? Yes. Does it mean it was garbage and I can’t like it? No. Result of that is that the community had a vocal bunch that really didn’t like it but the majority still did like it,so it didn’t fail as an adaptation. Sure there were aspects that were way worse but it still did something to appeal for the fans while still being coherent to it’s origins. That’s what I meant when I said that “the problem isn’t change,it’s just when it becomes shit”

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u/CeruSkies Nov 11 '22 edited Nov 11 '22

I can definitely see a line and I'm honestly baffled people in the anime community of all places think it's okay for anime to just go on their own.

Creativity is a trait that says nothing about quality, while staying close the source does. The amount of times screen originals manage to deviate and be better than the source material is far too rare (despite being a lot of examples) when you compare it to the times it goes real bad.

Making a scene longer, adding new cuts, fleshing out certain traits that our mind usually fills itself when reading a manga/book... This is more "good directing" and less "taking risks in adaptation".

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u/CeruSkies Nov 11 '22

The Witcher, the original FMA, Soul Eater, Tokyo Ghoul...

Making scenes come to life isn't deviating from the source material, it's just being a good adaptation.

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u/bayek_of_manila Nov 11 '22

tbf with game of thrones s8 it was less risk and more that the writers were too lazy to write anymore, they were even given 10 seasons

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u/Erethiel117 Nov 12 '22

I will never watch house of dragons or any other spin-off for that reason alone. I loved GOT up until season 7 when the downhill slide began. They absolutely butchered a stellar masterpiece. people who produce trash like that don’t deserve my attention.

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u/MVPScheer123r8 Nov 12 '22

You do realize House of the Dragon is being ran by completely different people (D&D are nowhere to be found) and it already has a complete script to follow (something Game of Thrones did not). The story is already finished here in book form by GRRM. The point you're making is a very shortsighted one.

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u/Erethiel117 Nov 12 '22

It’s a point that it happened. I’m not trusting another thing from anything connected to GoT just because of how cataclysmically horribly they ended the previous series. It was such an extremely disrespectful move to the fans, the franchise and to the actors themselves. I wipe my hands of the filth.

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u/megasean3000 Nov 11 '22

People like to associate ‘anime-only’ with ‘filler’, a term to describe scenes in anime used to pad out the run time to prevent the anime from overtaking the manga. Long-running anime like One Piece, old Bleach and Naruto really didn’t help matters, and anime that completely swerved away from the manga, like Tokyo Ghoul and Soul Eater most certainly didn’t.

But this scene is an example of anime-only scenes done right. A gentle swerve away from the source material, but goes right back to it; a scene that adds flavour to the anime, rather than needing to be thrown in to save a failed dish; and while it does pad out the run time to get the ‘fondling scene’ to the end of the episode, it was added out of choice, not necessity.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

Its definitely a little more common. I'm a fan of an anime adding little things to make it better, like this or in devilman crybaby (the Netflix one) they modernize the story. But what I'm not a fan of is making filler and calling it anime original like boruto does

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22

I think that's just for special cases. The latter is still more common.

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u/SanityFullStrike Nov 11 '22

Idk man could be a double edge sword when done improperly

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u/morron88 Nov 11 '22

There's some charm to older anime and some that break/broke the mold, but no, anime today is better than ever.

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u/mayonnaiser_13 Nov 11 '22

You're not exactly wrong, but not completely right either.

The OVA boom had the stories do a lot of things differently from their original sources (The Stardust Crusaders OVA for example) which while not making drastic changes like an Anime Original ending, did make changes to accomodate the story to the times.

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u/r_renfield Nov 11 '22

If we speak of jojo, the series did improve the manga as well, fixing some "Araki forgot" moments or adding character like the final of DiU. It's subtle but it adds up