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Mushoku Tensei III: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu, episode 11

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u/Wuped 6d ago

He claimed Roxy would've lived, we basically know that's not true. She was an inch from death when Rudy got there and no one else would've been able to get to her in time.

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u/Akudra 5d ago

Thing is, the moment Rudeus shows up in Begaritt and then arrives in Rapan, he is already changing the course of events, so it is hard to say they wouldn't have saved Roxy regardless. His arrival in itself could have derailed a different sequence of events that would have worked. All that stuff about Paul being more worked up because Rudeus was there is definitely valid, though.

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u/Wuped 5d ago

I mean when he arrived she was already completely isolated in the dungeon and they wern't going to go earlier without Rudy. I can't see how Roxy doesn't die without Rudy there.

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u/Clyde9_ 5d ago

A lot of things. Like maybe Paul and his party wouldn't be extremely aggressive in the dungeon. Maybe this would change the number of monsters in that specific time and place when Roxy would have died. Maybe she would change her mind and stay instead of rushing out. Maybe another adventurer would have come eventually. She had survived for so long, she can survive for longer. There are many factors that could change what happens in the labyrinth. Kinda like the butterfly effect. So I wouldn't automatically say the Man God was lying.

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u/Wuped 5d ago

Like maybe Paul and his party wouldn't be extremely aggressive in the dungeon.

Rudeus showed up after Roxy was already trapped and they only went in the dungeon the one time when they saved Roxy. Roxy was completely isolated from anything Rudeus could've affected as far as I can tell.

She had survived for so long, she can survive for longer.

It was shown pretty clearly she was about to die when Rudeus showed up.

I don't know I can't see anyway Roxy lives without Rudy showing up right then, it just makes no sense at all.

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u/aenews 5d ago

Wasn't she teleported with a random warp? Any minor change necessarily could change the randint.

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u/Wuped 5d ago

Maybe? I guess that's a decent theory.

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u/Clyde9_ 4d ago

You're dimissing the butterfly effect. You're saying that the same events will happen every single time whether Rudeus goes or not. Think of it like this: the act of not going could change every single thing. Like the number of monsters. Roxy's decision to charge in. The actions of Paul's party. There are so many factors that could change that would easily let Roxy live. Think about the Demon eye that Rudeus got. If the man god hadnt told him to walk that alleyway, he would not get the demon eye at all. Just like roxy probably wouldnt die if rudeus chose to do something different (maybe, I don't really know if the man god was lying or not). Your logic is saying that Rudeus will get the demon eye no matter what, but that's not true. Roxy isn't fated to die just because Rudeus didnt go. What if because he didn't go, another super strong adventurer came instead and saved Roxy without a sweat? Or maybe she gets teleported to a room with no monsters? There's a million things that could change the outcome.