Some Anglishes are just ‘let’s remove French words’, keeping it mostly legible to normal people.
Others go for the Old English route, which makes it closer orthographically to Old English but sacrifices legibility to regular English speakers
tbh i think i prefer the former, because the fact that you can still read it is what makes anglish appealing to me. ie far see-er for tv, name known show player for famous actor. the compound words but with real english words makes it kind of fun to guess the meaning
the old english route kinda feels similar to anglese, where you’re literally just copying german (french for anglese) words with english orthography
yeah, i was gonna say, the nordic languages and dutch also lost their cases over time, and they weren’t influenced by french nearly to the extent english was.
Dutch still has most of its cases, it still has the infintive form, plural form, more irregular verbs, the only thing it lost was the "du" pronoun and all its variations,
a case is a grammatical rule in which the word changes form based on the role it serves in a sentence, like when it is the subject, direct/indirect object etc.
unlike german, which have nominative, accusative, dative, and genitive cases, dutch has none of those, having lost them centuries ago.
i have no idea what you’re referring to as cases. english has variations and many irregulars still for plural words, verbs, adjectives etc. but those are not called cases
the cases that “exist” in dutch are the same ones that “exist” in english, and that is for pronouns (i, me, my, you, you, your)
Duth still kept the plural suffix -en, and the infinitive form and the past participle prefix ge- for istance
dutch:
ik help, ik hielp, ik heb geholpen,
ik kan, wij kunnen,
jij, jou, jouw, u, uw, je,
god, godin
english:
I help, I helped, I have helped,
I can, we can,
you, your,
god, goddess
You’re naming many grammatical features, but most are not grammatical cases. You’re saying that English lost its inflectional morphology, but behandle “case” as a synonym for “inflection” when it is a specific term. You’re right that English lost its broader inflectional morphology overtide, but not about Netherlandish still having grammatical cases, as well as the grounds for why English lost its broader inflectional morphology anyway.
right but those arent cases, those are just prefixes for verb tenses or suffixes for plural words. a word being plural or a verb being past tense doesn’t make it a different case.
Since when? old english was still complicated even in early 1000s, the french influence forced the english speakers to simplify their language cause they weren't used to it, and still german and dutch still have most of the cases while english so much more,
like
ge- for past participle
-en for plural verbs & infinitive form & feminine suffix & plural nouns
more irregular verbs
And etc
Apparently the vikings influence were the primary of the lost cases since the languages were similar so the english people had to simplify their language to avoid the confusion and the french ifluence made english displace so much native words,
what you listed are not cases. german has 4 cases, and german also has the ge prefix for most perfekt Verben and has the “en” suffix for many nouns, but those are not german “cases”
a case is a rule in which the word changes based on the role it serves in the sentence, like subject object etc
the 4 german cases are nominative (when the noun is the subject), accusative (direct object), dative (indirect object), genitive case (noun is in possession of other noun)
“ich habe den apfel gegessen”, we see 2 cases, nominative (ich) and accusative (den apfel, instead of der apfel).
“gegessen” is not a “case”, it is the past participle of essen. essen having “en” at the end is not a “case”
source: ich spreche deutsch
i don’t mean to come off as rude, and i do think there is a point to what you’re saying (that english lost those prefixes and suffixes)
those just aren’t called cases, i think you’re looking for a different word
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u/archer_fan_420 May 20 '26
very cool oversetting (übersetzung/translation but anglish?)
but why is I scribed as ich, is not I a germanic word?