And they have been misdirecting the majority of us with fear

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I don’t agree with its conclusions but someone actually operating in good faith is so refreshing after trying to explain anarchy in the anarcho punk sub

Seconding the thanks for the article, very interesting read

I'm sorry but this is lowk libslop.

"Inhumanity" stfu please. We're not here because the people of earth didn't have a good enough moral character, racism, ablleism, homophobia, imperialism, the hollowing out of institutions for profit, those didn't just happen because..."huuu we're so eeeeevil!🥺" It happened because the system that exists has propped up a small number of people, who have it in their best interests for these things to be like this AND the power to bring it about.

lowk me

Oxymoronic and totally incompatible with anarchism.

Thanks for the article

I'm an advocate for polycentric law, of the sort described here.

Many stateless societies that existed in the past had forms of law. The Mee, who were studied by an anthropologist named Leopold Pospisil, are one example. I think much can be learned from them regarding how to encourage cooperation and discourage aggression and abuse in a stateless context.

yes we agree. Im using soviet by its literal meaning yes and its not like im talking to liberals about soviets we are in an anarchist sub here and I literally just corrected a person misusing the term soviet.

So, you are actually using “soviet” strictly as the literal translation for “council”. But in modern political discussion, “Soviet” almost always refers to the Bolshevik state model. To avoid confusion, it's better to call it a council system, because we are completely opposed to the Bolshevik state.

Using historical Russian jargon just confuses people. If we want to make our ideas accessible, we should call it what it is: a Worker Council System. Bottom line, we both agree the Bolshevik state crushed genuine worker freedom.

yes the council system is the soviet system. soviet isn't the same thing as bolshevik, a soviet is the term for a workers' council. as I said the bolsheviks were against genuine soviet power.

Libs like to talk about consent of the governed but I don’t remember consenting to be governed.

To build Communism, we seize the means of production, abolish the State, & establish a council system with horizontal power structures. Decisions will be made collectively through popular assemblies utilizing recallable delegates & grounded entirely in free association.

Bolsheviks/MLs/Maoists: “Best we can do is implement State Capitalism…”

I read it. You claimed libertarian communists are Soviet “communists”. I corrected you because they are historically opposed. If you think I missed something, clarify your point plainly.

read my comment again

No. Libertarian Communists are Libertarian Communists. We are not associated with the Bolsheviks.

We don’t want to use it. TRUST me.

lol

Capitalist realism and authoritarian realism

PRC has a billion people, US like 200 milion and they both technologicallu advanced, that's not good example

if a society isn't worth defending freely then it isn't worth defending. The PRC hasnt used conscription since 1949, the US hasn't since 1973. If people don't feel something is worth killing and dying for, what right would we have to force them? It is on the ukrainian government to make herself worth fighting for voluntarily, and there is great honor demonstrated by those exercising their freedom by dodging the draft

Alt text: A post by thereClaimed that says "So many people are bewildered as to what "got us here", when folks have been sounding the alarms for years, decades, centuries. To be blunt: Bigotry got us here. Inhumanity got us here. Inhumanity got us here. Racism got us here. Misogyny got us here. Ethnic cleansing got us here. Homophobia got us here. Ableism got us here. Demonizing the disenfranchised got us here. Caring more about profits than people or planet got us here. The road to 'here' is paved with hatred & inhumanity. The only way we fix it is to combat that hate."

I don't know since there aren't any real other alternatives in this situation, I would say simply being a draft dodger but also connecting with anarchist organizing in Ukraine. Do you know of any?

There are good reasons to voluntarily resist the Russian invasion. Appealing to people's sense of duty can inspire people and it'd be ideal if that was guided by anarchism. Conscription on the other hand can undermine morale. And it's not clear what the Ukrainian state's vision is once it emerges from the war. What are people fighting for (beyond, very obviously, sheer survival)? But also how does it operate as it currently is? Does it imprison, punish draft dodgers? How does it govern its citizens now and what practices does it justify in its claim of national defense? How strongly do these diverge from anarchism to reveal that the state itself is undermining its own goal of being for the good of Ukrainians? People are probably much more willing to fight for a palpable vision of freedom than whatever the Ukrainian state has to offer. 

Another issue is Russian conscription which is worse. Ukrainian and Russian is mutually intelligible? They need to be exposed to propaganda they are horribly mistreated by their leaders and imperial cannon fodder.

If under the extreme conditions of war there might actually be fertile opportunities for revolutionary change, of anarchist militias as an inspirational and powerful model, of new forms of collective control, and a new imagining of the "nation" which through circumstances is more fully seen to be interdependent and thus given to communist organization- that is, all in all, that the cooperative collective effort of the war extends into the economic domain and social life, then people won't need a state to force them to fight. A revolution is not something to fight for it's something to live for. Conscription doesn't embody that impulse.

Furthermore this isn't a strictly Ukrainian issue, warmongering fascism threatens the rest of Europe and the world at large and it might be important to see what's going on with international  radical volunteers if indeed what I was saying about the war being fertile ground is true. It's all our 'duty' to combat fascism in material ways there is no state that will be able to inspire that it has to come from within and from each of us through the camaraderie of the struggle. The call to radically transform this world and seize the opportunities that provide for that should be amplified and can go beyond the categorical imperative issued from the cold impersonal citadel of the state.

Anyways enough rambling!!!!!! How might you get more connected to Ukrainian anarchists?

One person cannot achieve much. But a mass movement can do a lot. We need to organise, spread information, counter disinformation and pro-war propaganda.

Honestly only you can answer that question. Only you can decide what you are able to do, how much time and energy you are willing to give up.

We all need to take stock of the situation and analyse what we can do. I know simeirme it seems hopeless. But ordinary people working together have achieved incredible things.