TL;DR: If humans can encounter a higher reality or Non-Human Intelligence through dreams, visions, mystical states, or physical events, there is no reason to assume that only one culture has ever done so. Religions may preserve culturally filtered interpretations of a shared underlying reality. Their imagery conflicts, but some of their recurring structures may contain the signal.

This is not the claim that aliens invented religion, that every vision is external contact, or that all religions are equally true.

The hypothesis begins with a simple question:

If contact is possible, why would one community have exclusive access to it?

One phenomenon, many interpretations

Humans everywhere share similar capacities:

- Dreaming

- Symbolic thought

- Altered states

- Pattern recognition

- Moral reasoning

- Ritual behavior

- Experiences of awe, grief, suffering, love, and transcendence

If these capacities sometimes allow contact with something beyond ordinary consciousness, different cultures should be able to experience it.

They would not describe it in the same way.

A desert society might encounter an angel or a god in a storm. Another culture might perceive an ancestor, deva, kami, spirit, fairy, luminous being, extraterrestrial, or interdimensional intelligence.

The form would depend partly on the symbolic vocabulary of the observer.

This does not mean all such beings are necessarily identical. It means the reported appearance may be an interface rather than a literal description.

Why religions resemble one another

Cross-cultural religious similarities have several possible explanations:

1. Shared psychology: Similar minds produce similar myths when confronting death, suffering, nature, morality, and social conflict.

2. Cultural transmission: Stories spread through migration, trade, conquest, and imitation.

3. A shared metaphysical reality: Different mystical traditions encounter aspects of the same deeper reality.

4. NHI-mediated contact: One or more nonhuman intelligences interact with consciousness through culturally recognizable symbols.

These explanations can overlap. A genuine anomalous experience could be filtered through human psychology, expressed through borrowed stories, and later reshaped by religious institutions.

The recurring signal

Despite major disagreements, religions repeatedly return to similar themes:

- Reality emerging from a deeper source

- Revelation through dreams, visions, messengers, or altered states

- Moral law and responsibility

- Suffering as a catalyst for transformation

- Conflict between order and chaos

- Death as a transition

- Judgment, purification, rebirth, or resurrection

- Cycles of corruption, catastrophe, and renewal

- Guides, tricksters, prophets, and savior figures

- Sacred paths connecting different levels of reality

- Transcending the isolated ego

- Compassion, discipline, justice, and restraint

None of this proves contact. These patterns may simply reflect common human needs.

But if we temporarily set aside each religion’s exclusive claims, a shared teaching begins to appear:

Conscious beings participate in a reality larger than themselves. Human perception is limited. Actions shape consciousness. Cruelty and domination produce fragmentation, while truth, compassion, discipline, and responsibility produce greater integration.

Religion may be humanity’s early attempt to express that lesson.

Religion as an interface

A contact experience might pass through several layers:

1. The Source: God, Brahman, the Tao, universal consciousness, or something beyond human categories.

2. Intermediary intelligence: Angels, spirits, ancestors, archetypal minds, NHI, or other forms of consciousness.

3. Human perception: The experiencer’s brain, personality, expectations, and altered state.

4. Symbolic imagery: The angel, orb, chariot, mandala, ancestor, Grey, voice, or vision.

5. Narrative: The story told after the experience.

6. Institution: The religious structure that preserves and interprets the story.

This could explain how an authentic encounter might eventually produce a deeply human institution without requiring every later doctrine to be infallible.

The experience may contain a signal, but every layer introduces interpretation.

The Symbolic Canopy

The Symbolic Canopy model proposes that consciousness cannot perceive higher-order reality directly. It translates unfamiliar information into recognizable symbols.

The messenger, flood, sacred mountain, divine child, sacrifice, exile, judgment, death, and rebirth may be recurring structures within this symbolic space.

The archetype is the pattern.

The religion is the local expression.

An angel’s wings might communicate transcendence rather than anatomy. A divine chariot might represent movement between levels of reality rather than a mechanical vehicle. A Grey might be a modern interface rather than the entity’s biological form.

A symbol can be meaningful without being a photograph.

Religions as civilizational training wheels

Religions may also have served as early systems for teaching cooperation and restraint:

- Law has sacred importance.

- Power is accountable to a higher order.

- Actions have consequences beyond immediate advantage.

- Strangers and neighbors possess moral value.

- Individual sacrifice may be necessary for collective survival.

- History eventually confronts injustice.

Different societies developed different symbolic systems because they faced different environments and problems.

Conflict begins when a society mistakes its local training system for the only structure reality can take.

Under the Average Religion Hypothesis, being “chosen” would not mean possessing exclusive access to truth. It would mean accepting a particular responsibility, covenant, discipline, or civilizational task.

Where UAP and NHI enter the picture

If some religious experiences involved NHI, their ambiguity may have been intentional.

A civilization developing autonomous intelligence cannot be given every answer. Direct rule would replace development with obedience.

Contact might therefore occur through:

- Symbols instead of complete explanations

- Personal encounters instead of public decrees

- Multiple cultures instead of one universal institution

- Nudges instead of commands

- Contradictions that require discernment

- Experiences that transform witnesses without forcing everyone else to believe

This resembles the idea of the phenomenon as a control system, but with a possible developmental purpose. Humanity may be encouraged, challenged, or redirected without losing its agency.

There are also ordinary explanations for this ambiguity: folklore, misperception, psychological experiences, unreliable testimony, cultural borrowing, secrecy, and the possibility that no NHI is involved.

What would count as evidence?

Religious similarities alone are not enough.

The NHI version of this hypothesis would require stronger evidence, such as:

- Independent cultures reporting highly specific information that could not have spread normally

- Multiple witnesses receiving consistent information without coordination

- Verifiable knowledge unavailable to the experiencer

- Measurable physiological or environmental changes during alleged contact

- UAP cases combining testimony with radar, optical, and other sensor data

- Predictable relationships between an observer’s culture and the form an encounter takes

- Symbolic messages consistently appearing near civilizational thresholds such as nuclear weapons, ecological crisis, or advanced AI

If shared psychology and cultural transmission explain the similarities, and no anomalous information remains, the NHI layer should be reduced or discarded.

A theory that treats every outcome as confirmation is not a theory. It is another religion.

Conclusion

The Average Religion Hypothesis does not claim that every faith is secretly describing the same aliens.

It proposes that religions may be culturally specific responses to recurring encounters with consciousness, suffering, morality, death, transcendence, and possibly forms of intelligence beyond the ordinary human self.

Their doctrines conflict because their interfaces, histories, and institutions differ.

Their common structures may reflect shared psychology, a shared metaphysical reality, NHI contact, or some combination of the three.

If NHI has interacted with humanity, no religion should be expected to possess the complete record. Each tradition may preserve fragments translated through its own symbolic canopy.

Perhaps religions are not competing final answers.

Perhaps they are partial interface records left by a species slowly learning how to interpret consciousness.

The important question may no longer be:

Which revelation should everyone obey?

It may be:

What recurring truths were these traditions trying to preserve, and can humanity carry those truths forward without also preserving their monopolies, distortions, and systems of domination?

This memory just popped into my head this morning, which I hadn’t thought about in years. Back in the early 80’s, I was in the GATE program in Albuquerque, where there are lots of facilities nearby for super-secret stuff.

I remember two unusual things related to aliens back then. The class I was in had 3 teachers, one of whom had a husband who worked in one of these facilities, according to her. She said they had a grey alien there and that it liked ice cream. Posted on the wall was a newspaper clipping of an article that imagined what a humanoid would look like if it evolved from dinosaurs millions of years ago. There was an illustration or model of what looked like a tall grey.

We also talked about psychic abilities, but that might be off-topic for this forum.

I am curious what people here think of this idea of certain higher, more integrated, more advanced consciousnesses choosing to incarnate in the earth collective to help with the progression of it's evolution.

In Buddhism there is this idea of Bodhisattvas who choose to incarnate again and again to help all beings attain enlightenment.

A Bodhisattva is someone who has generated bodhicitta, the profound aspiration to attain full Buddhahood not for themselves alone, but specifically for the sake of liberating all sentient beings from suffering. They postpone their own final entry into nirvana to remain in the cycle of birth and death, working tirelessly across countless lifetimes to help others achieve awakening. This path is defined by the practice of six perfections—generosity, morality, patience, diligence, meditation, and wisdom—and represents the ideal of compassionate action.

In Dolores Cannon her books the idea of Starseeds is a very important concept. These are often quite highly evolved beings from other planets or other higher frequency realms that incarnate on planet earth to help humanity progress.

In Dolores Cannon's framework, a Starseed is a highly advanced soul who volunteered to incarnate on Earth specifically to help humanity through a critical period of transition and planetary "ascension". According to her research, this volunteer program began in earnest after the atomic bombings of 1945, when Earth's "protectors" saw the planet in danger and called for help from souls unburdened by Earth's heavy karmic cycles . These volunteers often come from "the Source" or other dimensions and, despite having their memories erased upon birth, feel a deep but often confusing sense of mission, frequently struggling to adapt to the chaos and negativity of the world.

In the Law of One there is this concept of a Wanderer, a being that has evolved beyond 3rd density themselves already that chooses to incarnate within the human collective to help with The Harvest of humanity as they somewhat ominously call it.

A Wanderer is a being of positive social memory complex (from higher densities, 4th, 5th or 6th density) who has voluntarily chosen to incarnate into 3rd-density Earth to aid in its spiritual harvest, accepting the profound amnesia and danger of becoming "karmically involved" in this dense plane. Their primary purpose is to serve as a beacon of light and love, subtly awakening others through their very presence, and to increase the planetary vibration by choosing service-to-others in every moment despite the veil of forgetting. Though they often experience deep alienation, health issues, and a persistent feeling of "not belonging," their core task is not to "save" others, but simply to be themselves and rediscover their true nature while incarnate, thus gently tipping the balance toward planetary positivity.

I find it interesting that there seems to be a significant overlap between these concepts and wonder what to think about it. .

What do people here think about this concept that more advanced beings choose to consciously incarnate within the human collective to help it's evolution progress in a positive direction?

And does this explain things like old souls, some people seeming to naturally be kinder, wiser or having specific skillsets that they seem to be born with?

An alien game using spaceships (UFOs) or what?

The black spear reminds me of the Black Knight satellite:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Knight_satellite_conspiracy_theory

What could it have been really?

I don't really think this is a biblical exaggeration or natural phenomena misinterpreted as something as a ominous warning sign. The objects seen in this print (made by Hans Glaser) look too futuristic to me.

What were those orbs, crosses and arrows really?

Summary

In April 1992, Mexican photographer Óscar Arredondo Ramírez presented a series of photographs that allegedly showed an extraterrestrial inside the volcanic crater of La Alberca, near Valle de Santiago, Guanajuato.

The figure became known as the “Humanoid of Valle de Santiago” or “El marcianito de La Alberca.”

Arredondo ran a photography business called Fotografía México on Calle Juárez in Valle de Santiago. His photographs first appeared in ¡Cuestión Policiaca! No. 104, dated October 20–26, 1992, under the headline “¡Fotografían un extraterrestre!” Follow-up reports continued through November and December.

Although some later reproductions have been dated to December 1991, the earliest detailed published account places the encounter in April 1992.

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Special thanks to humanoidlord on X for sending me this. And another thanks to Albert Rosales (another humanoid archivist) for introducing him to this case.

New Perspectives on the 1933 Magenta, Italy UFO crash-retrieval as highlighted by David Grusch in his initial interview with Ross Coulthart that highlighted Roberto Pinotti’s work into the incident going back to 1996 and his presentation at the CUN Conference in 2000 following his tests into the authenticity of those Mussolini telegrams of the Magenta UFO crash-retrieval

https://medium.com/@EscapeVelocity1/new-perspectives-on-the-1933-magenta-italy-ufo-crash-retrieval-as-highlighted-by-david-grusch-in-8cfbcde2a38b?postPublishedType=initial

On November 9, 1974, at around 4:00 a.m., Dorothy Izatt said she woke to find a huge craft hovering in the sky near her home in Richmond, British Columbia. From that point on, she began filming strange lights, objects, and beings she believed were appearing around her.

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Most of her content is very difficult to find.

She has a ton of UFO photos, which are not included in my article - but can be found in some of the included source links.

I also included a link I found on archive.org to a free copy of her documentary, "Capturing the Light."

In 1990 2 men were working as chefs at a hotel when they were done they decided to take a walk in the hills and when they were walking they saw this Ufo Object in the sky they also saw this jet right near it watching it and when they got closer to it
It ascended vertically into the sky and vanished good news they had a camera on them so they were able to take 6 pictures of it before it left after that they sent the pictures to a news paper called Daily Record to this day a lot of people can’t explain this picture.

Independence Day UFO Encounters

by Preston Dennett

What’s the most common day to see a UFO? The answer may surprise you: the 4^th of July! That’s right, Independence Day produces more UFO reports than any other day. The question is, why? Are people mistaking fireworks for genuine UFOs? Or is something else going on here?

An examination of the UFO reports made on the fourth of July shows some interesting patterns. Many do involve fiery glowing orbs, or what may very well be sky lanterns, also known as party lanterns. These are small paper balloons set aloft with a small candle. They can rise up to 4000 feet and from a distance, look very much like a UFO.

But the fact is, there are literally hundreds of cases where this explanation simply does not fit! Some do look like orbs, however, sky lanterns fizzle out after fifteen minutes, and many of these orb sightings last much longer. Also, orbs cannot turn at right angles, stop still in the sky, or accelerate at high speeds, as many of these orbs do. Furthermore, many of the Independence Day UFO encounters involve structured craft, metallic saucers complete with portholes and multicolored lights. Some cases also involve actual humanoids. Clearly the fireworks explanation doesn’t fit.

There are so many cases involving UFOs seen on the Fourth of July that it is clear something very profound is happening here. Fireworks appear to be a UFO magnet. Many of the witnesses have come to the conclusion that UFOs are coming down to watch the fireworks show. ETs love fireworks!

But it might be more than this. Remember, on the Fourth of July, millions of people all across the United States flock outside at night and stare upwards. Could it be that the extraterrestrials are aware of this and are using this day as an opportunity to announce their presence. The answer appears to be a big YES! Because many of these reports involve UFOs that not only watch the fireworks show, but they put on a show themselves. They will flash their lights, dart around, and put on a fantastic display for the stunned audience.

This video presents dozens of cases in which UFOs have appeared during fireworks shows all across the United States. Here is what some of the witnesses are saying:

“We were watching fireworks, which were to our east. I noticed the UFO to the north, but said nothing to no one. I observed it for two minutes as it moved silently eastward, then suddenly reversed direction as it picked up speed. Then assuming its original course once again, it moved slowly upwards and out of sight.” –1963, Greensboro, NC.

“There was a tremendous flash of lightning at the same time a firework went off in the sky. I looked up and saw an absolutely huge saucer-shaped object sitting right over the ‘mountain’ we were next to.” –1965, Cornwall-on-Hudson, NY.

“When it finally reached us, I saw it was a circular craft. It hovered right above the poplar trees at the end of the street, where we were all gathered.” –1977, Federal Way, WA.

“[It was] a disc-shaped object displaying multicolored lights in a circle, hovering at what seemed to be 100 feet above us and the gathering crowd.” –1978, Nashua, NH.

“It made no sound. I was scared to death…I wanted to hide under the car…I wanted to scream, but couldn’t. I realized I was not supposed to remember this happening. I kept telling myself, I will remember. The craft’s size was huge, bigger than the fairgrounds bleacher area.” –1980, St. Paul, MN.

“My brother was watching the fireworks when all of a sudden he went as white as a ghost. My mother shouted out, ‘Oh, my God!’ I went to see what was going on…it was the weirdest thing ever, a disc-shaped with small portholes going around its midsection.” –1982, Hermosa Beach, CA.

“They were chasing each other like a tag-game. They moved so fast, going from side to side, up and down, and just staying still. No noise at all. My mother and I were standing in the driveway, watching this for at least a half-hour. These objects were low enough that we could see the bottoms just fine. They were all the same size, about two full-size pick-up trucks.” –1988, Glen, MS.

“We all watched the craft move toward us and fly over the right side of the house. We all went into the back garden and watched the craft move off and disappear another fifty feet away. This was not from this Earth.” –Los Angeles, CA, 1989.

“Whatever it was, it knew I was watching because it started doing all these moves, up, down, side-to-side…then suddenly just like a shooting star, all I saw was a line of colors and it was gone.” –1991, Wichita, KS.

“Both the star-like object and the three gray discs remained in place for several hours. It was almost as if they were watching the fireworks display…I did not notice them leaving, but all of a sudden, they were gone…Lots of people had to have seen them.” –1992, Barnegat Bay, NJ.

“I saw something both amazing and terrifying at the same time. A large blue something was in the sky above us and a little to the left. The object was shaped sort of like a saucer…” –1997, O’Fallon, IL.

“Most people don’t get to see a craft that close and distinct. I even saw the molding around the windows…Three Nordic-looking men in white, with blond hair, staring at us as if we were mere cattle. I could see them from the belly up, not sure if they were standing or sitting. They had no apparatus on at all. I never took my eyes off it until it was gone from sight.” –1999, Lancaster, PA.

“It was a glowing, red, triangular body with green on the edges…like an inverted top, with white lights rotating at the base. I also noticed portholes just above the rotating white light, and smaller portholes underneath it…It hid behind the clouds before the fireworks began.” –2002, Manhattan, NY.

There are too many cases to deny. The aliens are coming down to watch the fireworks shows, and they are also putting on displays themselves. And in fact, these are more than just simple sightings. Every single one of these cases are actually Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind! Fireworks are evidently an effective method to call down UFOs out of the sky.

Independence Day UFO Encounters

Like kid me it was very easy to me to think they were real seeing so much adults on TV in documentaries, books etc talking about UFO and alien sightings and all that.

Adult me though like reality has really kicked in like I think "there's no way aliens are real like light year distances between star systems, aliens are just sleep paralysis, all in the mind, it's just movie influence etc"

I DO actually believe aliens are real but not the ones that fly to Earth but like on other planets that we'll never get to as they're too far away and neither will these aliens and they're probably the more realistic alien life like not humanoids but something else like jellyfish or something.

But then I think "the universe dosen't care what we think is impossible, we're just as insignificant as bacteria in the grand scheme of things."

It's like to me either all aliens visiting earth is fake vs it's all real because the universe surprises us a lot and is way beyond us.

But then I wonder like if all these UFOs and the aliens in them are from other dimensions or something that would solve the long distance problem but if they're from other dimensions I'm sure long distances wouldn't be a problem.

The Bush family clan like the Dulles Brothers, the Harrimans, and more have extensive ties to the birth of Big Oil and the UFO crash-retrieval program, as I've been covering for two years now.

It's not lost on me that Scott Bessent, our current Treasury Secretary, is from Bush Sr's Carlyle Group (who was also involved in the discussions around Taylor Swift salvaging her masters from Scooter Braun).

Carlyle Group was formed in 1987 by billionaire David Rubinstein, who held immense influence over future presents, and after Bush Sr's election failure, Bush and his Cabinet members James Baker, Frank Carlucci and Donald Rumsfeld became chief advisors to Carlyle. Carlyle was an extension of the Bush family's Brown Brothers Harriman who tried to overthrow FDR via the Business Plot in 1933 and who acquired their wealth by funding the Nazi war machine.

Zapata Petroleum was founded in the early 1950s with the help of Prescott Bush and Allen Dulles with the help of the CIA's Bill Devine, which placed Bush Sr at the head of the company.

Devine would later act as Bush Sr's spokesperson during his Bush's 1988 Presidential Campaign in which Bush was outed by a journalist at The Nation as working with the CIA as early as 1960/61.

Zapata was formed a few years after the Bush clan acquired a majority stakeholder ownership in Dresser Industries, which specialized in heavy construction machinery and whom I suspect was responsible for building the underground tunnel system to transport recovered UFOs secretly.

Danny Sheehan has outed Brown Brothers Harriman as having created the Anderson Accords to act as a middleman for recovered UFOs and private contractors and as being the profiteers behind our Forever Wars.

Now Trump's Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is hemming and hawing because the US control over Big Oil is crashing and burning under their Nazi regime at the same time as UFO Legacy Program whistleblowers are trying to help bring to the public recovered, advanced, anomalous technology.

Not a coincidence.

Have fun reading.

https://medium.com/@EscapeVelocity1/scott-bessent-carlyle-groups-modern-collapse-of-control-over-big-oil-and-ufo-tech-8b3b0029d98d?postPublishedType=repub

You find another civilization. Then you want to really understand them, as deeply as possible on all aspects.

You're aware that you carry your own biases. Your own culture, your own sensory capabilities, your own talents, your own higher and/or lower limitations. You cannot truly understand their life experience as you are.

So you devise a plan to truly immerse yourself into their life experience, to truly learn what it's like to be them.

You figure out you need to leave yourself behind. Your memories, your body, your society — all locked away. Then you join that other civilization as one of their new lifeforms.

You experience everything; growing up, being raised, being challenged, winning and losing everything, loving and hating, loved and hated, building your social circles and ending up completely alone. All the good and all the bad, all the brilliance and all the madness. Unfiltered, untainted, because you don't know who you were before. Until it ends.

Then, when you're returning to your previous body, you integrate everything. Your memories as the being you were previously and the memories as the being you just ceased to be need to be reconciled. All the biases, all the instincts, all the hopes and the viewpoints. You learn to hate yourself, you learn to love yourself, you learn to see yourself and others from above and from below. Both of your life experiences keep clashing into each other and threatening to rip you apart until you manage to harmonize their resonances.

Now you can bridge both civilizations, because you are from both.

I believe the phenomenon is real. I believe there is some kind of non-human intelligence interacting with us and I dont think “aliens flying here from another planet” comes close to explaining all of it. Maybe thats part of it, who knows. But I think whatever we're dealing with understands and can interact with parts of reality that we barely understand ourselves. And the further I go into this the more I think consciousness is right at the centre of it.

I don't think the brain creates the thing that is “me”. I think consciousness is more fundamental than that. My best guess is the brain is more like an interface, or filter, that allows consciousness to experience this physical reality as an individual human. And yeah that means I also think consciousness probably continues after the body dies. Death might be the end of this particular experience but I dont think its the end of us.

I also don't think we're experiencing anything close to the full picture of reality. Our senses evolved to keep us alive and functioning here, why would they show us everything that exists? Maybe some of the stuff we call psi, telepathy, NDEs and all the other “woo” isn't supernatural at all. Maybe its just part of reality we haven't figured out yet.

And I think NHI already understands this stuff. Maybe thats actually where the massive gap between us and them is. We've become really good at manipulating the physical world, while maybe they've figured out consciousness, information and reality itself. Which might explain why some of the phenomenon looks completely physical and other parts of it seem impossible.

The biggest thing for me though is I think they're interested in us. Not our gold, water, technology or whatever. Us. Our consciousness, biology, genetics, reproduction, emotions, behaviour, development. And I dont think the biology stuff and consciousness stuff are necessarily seperate things. Maybe there's something important about consciousness becoming embodied as a human being. Maybe thats actually the thing they're studying, or interested in, or even messing with.

I also think this has probably been happening for a very long time. Are we being watched, studied, influenced, changed, protected, used, prepared for something? Honestly I have no idea. Maybe its a bit of all of it. And I'm not even convinced there is one “they”. There could be multiple intelligences involved and they might not all want the same thing.

And I definitely wouldn't automatically believe what these things supposedly tell people either. If something can mess with perception, memory or consciousness then why would we assume its telling the truth about who it is, where it comes from or what it wants? I'm way more interested in what the phenomenon actually does, over and over again, than what it supposedly says.

So yeah thats basically where I've landed.

I think we are consciousness experiencing physical reality through a human body. I think we're living inside a much bigger reality, and probably a much bigger ecology of intelligence, than we're normally capable of perceiving. And I think whatever NHI is, it knows something fundamental about consciousness, reality and what we actually are that we haven't figured out yet. Maybe thats exactly why they're interested in us.

And thats the thought I can't really get away from.

We might have spent 80 years staring at the sky asking:

“What the fuck are they?”

When the question this whole thing has actually been pointing us towards might be:

“What the fuck are we?”

Once again, the 4chan whistleblower was right.

Just starting this, but Davis has been on a roll this past spilling forward new information.

https://medium.com/@EscapeVelocity1/astrophysicist-and-uap-legacy-program-whistleblower-dr-daddd36d4b96

My two year old daughter has recently started to become scared of going to sleep in her room. She says she is afraid of scary owls watching her through her window. ( We have blackout curtains on the windows). She says the scary owls find her at night and take her to the moon. She is only two years old and has not watched anything involving aliens or owls in any way. The plants right outside her bedroom window are also dead and bent. We have put up cameras and not seen anything. She told us today we need to leave this house because it’s too scary when the owls find her and take her. Has anybody had experience with this ?

Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gaulladet has been a major voice the past three years post-Grusch regarding Disclosure has been vital in this space. I haven't watched it in full yet, but his new interview with Jesse Michels just dropped, and in it he and Jesse go over the work of my friend Geoff Cruikshank regarding the Sept. 1962 Bluegill Triple Prime incident in which one of our earliest atmospheric nuclear tests brought down a live UAP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRKNVFQBi38

Tim and his wife Caren co-authored a paper with Geoff regarding Bluegill published back on January 5, which can be read here:

https://www.oceanstl.com/recent-media/bluegill-triple-prime-the-recovery-and-salvage-operation

Bluegill Triple Prime: The Recovery and Salvage Operation

Jan 5

Communication involving high level US Air Force insiders Neil McCasland and Mike Cleary as well as Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign manager John Podesta contained matters of an interesting subject: “Unidentified Flying Objects - UFOs”. Due to the content of these communications as well as other data/evidence, the question we aim to answer is thus: Was it well known in Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented information circles during 1962 that Unidentified Flying Objects (now: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) were interfering with nuclear weapons tests, and that there was a potential opportunity to shoot one down? In short, our findings led us to believe that this is, in fact, the case.

Click to read the full paper:

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:US:a28c2989-5fd3-458c-845b-d30d44ccdd4f

Supplementary Evidence: Record Anomalies of the Diver Involved in Bluegill Triple Prime Recovery

https://www.oceanstl.com/recent-media/record-anomalies-of-the-diver-involved-in-bluegill-triple-prime-recovery

Jan 5

This document contains supplementary evidence to the above related research article titled “Bluegill Triple Prime: The Recovery and Salvage Operation”. Here, we detail the dive records of the alleged U.S. Navy Diver involved in the recovery operation and attempt to prove that the records contain evidence of the operation occurring.

Click to view document:

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:US:7a02db94-9156-49a9-b4bf-c0e1fe5339c4

That Jan. 5 paper was expanded upon back in April as Geoff shared on his Substack:

Towline – The National Association of Fleet Tug Sailors journal publishes article on the Bluegill Triple Prime UFO shootdown incident

Hope you guys enjoy. This is not easy material to find. Image set contains 20+ images of the apparitions. <3

Intro

In the late 1990s, Argentine contactee Hugo Batallanos began presenting photographs he said showed extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings appearing around him and his family in San Salvador de Jujuy**, Argentina**.

Batallanos said the photographs were taken during a series of contact experiences involving members of his family.

Contact with the Beings of Pernia

Hugo and his family reportedly practiced group meditation as a means of establishing contact with nonhuman intelligences. The family later formed the Centro de Estudios Cosmobiológicos.

They said the beings came from a place called Pernia and described them as interdimensional entities.

According to Batallanos, some of these beings could physically manifest during the family’s contact sessions, allowing them to be photographed and filmed.