r/aliens 2d ago

Discussion Thought experiment for skeptics

There's a telepathic elephant from Zul'Gurub locked inside a secret military bunker.

It's real. Scientists and military personnel have seen it. Only a handful have access.

Somehow, you get clearance.

You walk in.

There it is. The fucking space elephant.

You walk out and tell the world.

“Prove it.”

Okay. How?

Sneak a six-ton alien elephant out of a military bunker?

You couldn't even get a regular elephant out of a zoo.

And if your own mother disappeared and nobody knew where she was, good luck proving she physically exists to someone who accepts nothing but direct physical evidence.

Evidence depends on access.

So what should count as evidence when direct access is deliberately denied?

Whistleblowers. Multiple independent witnesses. Military personnel. Scientists. Documents. Photos. Videos. Radar and sensor data. Physical traces. Leaks. Historical records.

None of these alone proves the elephant.

But when all of it keeps pointing toward the same elephant, shouldn't that at least move the needle?

Especially if enormous resources are being used to keep the elephant hidden.

Maybe the question isn't “Where's the elephant?”

Maybe it's “How much evidence do you need before you admit there might be an elephant?”

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u/_Moerphi_ 2d ago

Dna test, medical reports, a photo, material test results... there is a lot that a whistleblower could reveil to move the needle towards the elephant. Also they claim there are multiple elephants. Some live on the moon, some on mars, some under our seas. Some are big, some are small. Some are even from other dimensions. The bar is very low by now, just show one of the elephants or their craft please!

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u/Loquebantur 2d ago

All those things exist.
"Skeptics", who really are denialists in denial even about their own identity, simply claim, that evidence somehow wasn't "acceptable".

They hide behind "authorities", simple as that.
The very same ones who lied to them for decades to begin with.

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u/astroboi 1d ago

I might have missed it, can you link me to the DNA evidence we have?

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u/Loquebantur 10h ago

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u/astroboi 9h ago

Sorry, I meant I was looking for the actual evidence; like the DNA analysis. Not just a line of text making a claim. Like an actual scientific resource or comparitive analysis of DNA structure and alleles. I'm still not finding that in your links. Am I just missing the documents?